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Typical evasion when you can't provide a logical answer

Orientation is not a "temptation", is the part of a person's being, his nature. He had NO part in making the choice. His "temptation" is then how he handles his orientation. Is the gay or straight guy promiscuous, violent, abusive in any way in his relationships.

Is a man's orientation to be attracted to and love women a sin? Of course not! It is no more a sin for a man whose orientation is to be attracted to and love another man. NO ONE chooses their sexual orientation, who they by nature are attracted to and love. Since none of us choose our sexual...

That is an easy question if you wish to phrase it that way. The Bible indeed condemns certain acts of homosexuality as sin; AND likewise, the Bible condemns certain acts of heterosexuality as sin! Just as you need to define what acts of heterosexuality are sin, you must also define what acts...

Since you are so certain of your belief, I know you must for certain know how to explain why David compared the love of Jonathan to "the love of women" rather than to the love of brother, mother, father or wife? Explain that to us! Then tell us why Jerome added the fake sense about a mother's...

Yes, the NT was written in Greek, and the OT in Hebrew, which was then translated into Greek known as the Septuagint. Agreed, we find the meaning in the context, as the context helps us what exact meaning or nuance of the word fits. So, the word "effeminate" in the KJV, RV, ASV, YLT and others...

Hi J! Your post gave me a chance to share something with the forum. This past week I've had the opportunity to connect by email with a young man who is now interested in my Christian faith, and life. His background was superficially Roman Catholic, but he has discarded it, and now seems to be...

I can believe that.

And where did you find that novel definition of "effeminate"? I'd like to know in what English dictionary you found that.

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." (Matt 5:17-18 KJV) 1828 Webster's - "FULFILL'ED, pp...

I used the common word for today in public or open use. I do not know of any Bible translation that uses "gay" for malakos or arsenokoites. Does anyone know of a standard translation that uses "gay" for those?

Yes, the meaning of words do change over time, and that is why you use the 1828 Webster's English Dictionary which is closer to the language of the KJV. Let's try it out on a couple of verses and see how we come out with it. "EFFEM'INATE, a. [L. effoeminatus, from effoeminor, to grow or make...

Pooh Bear, you say "homosexuality is inherently wrong", but does that not prove the fact that since homosexual orientation is found in some people's nature, it is not wrong? From the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary - "inherent (in somebody/something) that is a basic or permanent part of...

I based my belief on the direct, explicit statements of scripture about the Law of Moses not my logic. Child sacrifice is murder. Inbreeding as humanity spread, and became less perfect as it was in Eden, would be producing noticeable deformities and birth defects which common knowledge would...

What did Moses tell the Israelites about the Law, the Old Covenant? "And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?" (Deut 4:8 KJV) The Law of Moses was given to Israel, not the Gentile nations. Then when...

Dear Taken, you wrote the following - "UNFORGIVEN (ie Not MADE righteous)…Homosexuals…murderers…liars…cheats…thieves…etc. Rejectors to Stand WITH God….SHALL Be REJECTED FROM entrance into His KINGDOM…. 1 Cor 6: [9] Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not...

I know I'll answer to my Lord on the last day what I have posted here. I take it very seriously indeed. But, I wonder how the Lord will respond to those who excuse their hatred by saying, "I was just hating the sin and loving the sinner". How much actual study have the posters in this thread...

Regarding the interpretation of Rom. 1:26-27: verse 26 does not say women had sex with other women. If they were having anal and oral sex with men, that was a change of behavior from the created design. To say this is lesbianism is to read into the verse what it does not state. On v27, the...

I'm coming to believe the translators of the KJV were far more accurate in their translations of the male on male sex sin passages. I used to wonder why the KJV used the word "sodomite(s)" in the OT for what are idolatrous male temple prostitutes? But the KJV did not use "sodomites" in the NT...

Since no gay-haters have tried to give an answer to this verse about Jonathan's love, I'll add an additional verse and when added to 2 Sam. 1:26; it is an unavoidable conclusion that the sexual element was present. "And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the...