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i beg your pardon you just think you know. when in fact you dont. i am trying NOTE TRYING get you to understand is the osnas teaching does NOT make God a liar. that is a carnal statement very fleshly. when i used the charles manson example you know good and well. the osas teaching...

Theoretically anyone can be saved. including Hitler, Stalin, and Putin . however there is a time one can be turned over to a reprobate mind

sigh i dont need a you tube video i read my bible. your missing the point because your blinded by pride

anyone can be saved anyone can be forgiven

no the only thing silly as you say ..is your claim those who are of the osnas doctrine make God a liar

once again THAT is not the question i asked please read carefully ***** note i used as a example if you cant answer i understand let me help you out hope this helps you

thats NOT what i said was it? i fully understand eternal security/osas i have studied it inside and out.. i know what both sides have in scripture nope not a movie buff back to the regular scheduled program

so its your claim ..ill use a example Charles Manson ,,lets say he got saved as a young man went back into the world.. contributing to murder.. he had eternal life?

so much for this post no the osnas crowd DOES NOT call God a liar .they have scripture just like the osas does.

so much for this post

when i what? i replied to the right person... but i have no idea what screed is

am i to be concerned ?

if i post and show scripture .let me use this 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and...

:waves:one in every crowd i dont have the time or the desire to prove my point.. see if i had the desire and wanted to oppose you countering with scripture showing how secure our salvation is. BTW that's not asas its Bible .everyone interrupts scripture different . something for you to chew...

there is no way to discuss osas vs osnas there is no real conclusion.. its like beating a dead horse expecting it to move:contemplate:

conditional statement to not also include a hypothetical component where is that found in the Bible

Are christians justified by faith only? nope by grace and by the blood and faith

its a dead end road

the unity is in the person of Jesus Christ and him crucified born again

explain UR