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Yet people sell cars (which cause around 2000 deaths a year in the UK) and guns (which caused 19,000 deaths last year in the US). Why is it immoral to sell a vaccine but not immoral to sell a gun? No-one claims that vaccines are totally safe; the point is that the vaccine is much less dangerous...

Well, He hasn't ever said that to me, and He doesn't say it now. For a start, I don't buy into that hyper-literal interpretation of Revelation. But even if there will (some day) be a literal "mark", why should any one of these vaccines (let alone all of them) be it? The same dire warning gets...

Are you saying that the Bible seems to imply that abused women who "freeze" are guilty in God's eyes? Personally I don't think it does carry that implication, because of the genre. The Mosaic Law contains a mixture of direct moral commands (e.g. "Do not commit adultery") and case law ("If...

It's not the database that is "a pack of lies" but the misinterpretation that some people make of it. It does indeed record many adverse effects (and deaths) caused by vaccines - but it also records a far larger number of coincidental illnesses and deaths. If you want the true figure of...

Way back in the Bronze Age (when this law was formulated) it was assumed in most societies that the woman was complicit. Adultery had been committed, therefore she was as guilty as her rapist and both would be executed. The point of this law is that there may be circumstances where the woman is...

OK, so over 10 million people (mainly elderly) have been vaccinated in the UK so far. Given that elderly people do have a tendency to die (for all sorts of reasons), 240 deaths out of 10 million doesn't sound a lot to me. In fact it sounds, if anything, fewer than one might expect. No obvious...

This is VAERS data. It's the number of people who had ANY kind of adverse experience within a few weeks of having the vaccine - NOT the adverse effects caused by the vaccine. So if you walk out of the vaccination centre and get struck by lightning or hit by a bus, you are on this list. I'd be on...

That's being over-cynical. The context is different - the Government isn't some total stranger coming up to us on the street. We know the history of our NHS, and the philosophy behind it. And as someone else as pointed out, it isn't "something for nothing" anyway - it gets paid for by our taxes...

True - but how "long" does long-term have to be? 6 months? 2 years? 20 years? It's no good waiting for a 20-year study if you catch Covid and die in the meantime. "Safety" is always a relative term in medicine, because all treatments (vaccines, drugs, surgical operations, blood transfusions)...

This may not be the best article, it's just the first one I've managed to track down: Covid-19: Pfizer vaccine efficacy was 52% after first dose and 95% after second dose, paper shows And the actual paper: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577?query=RP

Why do you keep insisting that the whole world should accept your personal definition of a vaccine? It could be argued that there has only ever been one true vaccine - the smallpox vaccine - because it consisted of the vaccinia (cowpox) virus. But as science progressed, the term 'vaccine' got...

I do get the impression that some people think I imagined the whole thing. ;)

Perhaps the confusion arose over slight differences between American and British English? Because my state of knowledge hasn't changed - I really thought you were asking me a different question. "Serum" and "vaccine" are not interchangeable terms to me. I've checked the first few articles - in...

But that's very different from paying for it directly. Yes, I've paid for my vaccine indirectly, through paying tax (because I'm rich enough to pay tax). But my taxes also help to pay for the vaccines of all those who are too poor to pay tax. They really do get it for free! And this system also...

Some people call it the Oxford vaccine. Some people call it the AstraZeneca vaccine. Some people link the two names together. All three are correct. That particular piece of information is not in that particular article - but why should it be? It's common knowledge in this country that most...

That was not my point.

you missed my point. Never mind.

You wouldn't say that if you had actually read the article you're quoting, which mentions both the vaccines in current use in the UK. Most people are now getting the Oxford vaccine. No. I don't have the same issues with vaccines that you have.

And the significance of this is... what?

Yes. It's a standard lesson in how NOT to do research, and one of the reasons why ethical regulation is now so strict. I've already told you that it wasn't an mRNA vaccine. But we already know that these vaccines are effective, and the consequences of not vaccinating are potentially dire...