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3) Adventism's preaching and teaching against Sunday is done from ignorance (blaming the Pope or Constantine for something that was done much earlier and for Biblical reasons and roots).

2) Adventism's revelation on keeping the Sabbath (beyond the older Seventh Day Baptist teaching) is simply an attempt to fix the failed Shut door Prophecy The movement had boxed itself in a corner around 1844, by Ellen Harmon/White having a revelation that confirmed the Shutdoor doctrine. A...

lol your "Mexican jumping bean" comment did get a laugh and a grin from me @BarneyFife. I suppose I will bow out of this conversation if you think I am hijacking things, but you made the mistake of asking to defend my stance and that is very involved. :) Take Care and best wishes. to you...

@BarneyFife here is another piece of evidence on the issue of regeneration. It comes from the Adventist fear of the dreaded coming "Sunday Law". What is up with that? The Coptic Church and other Middle Eastern Christians are a literal remnant (rather than a hypothetical one as Adventism...

It's funny you talk about Us vs. Them, you remind me of my time at an old Postmodern Christian message board called theooze dot com. There was a person I knew back in the early 2000s named Polycarp that mentioned that sort of thing. And I have used that exact language myself talking about...

By the way I listen to a lot of Apologetics concerning Adventism put out from former cradle Adventists on these kinds of topics. Technically speaking it is my new favorite hobby! :) I actually feel called to this ministry after Tangoing a few years with the SDA at Christian Forums dot com...

You SDA forget that God never authorized Purim nor the Festival of the Dedication aka Hanukkah but they nevertheless were celebrated as lesser feasts, and it seem like God approved for even Jesus celebrated Hanukkah and never spoke out against Purim. The same thing is true for Sunday only much...

Ignatius of Antioch The Epistle Of Ignatius To The Magnesians, AD 103 CHAP, VIII. — CAUTION AGAINST FALSE DOCTRINES. Be not deceived with strange doctrines, nor with old fables, which are unprofitable. For if we still live according to the Jewish law, we acknowledge that we have not received...

The significance was found by the Early Christians and that is good enough for me for I follow "the Faith Once Delivered unto the Saints". I also notice the deflection at bringing up Ellen White. Where you get your teaching from matters because they shape your reality. I maintain this...

My position is not just with Tradition but with scripture, saint Paul especially. As an Eastern Christian I realized that the various Eastern Churches, Church fathers etc. read saint Paul especially on this issue, the way did I did earlier as both a non-denominational Charismatic, and earlier...

Dear @Brakelite I got the following things on my side besides Jesus (obviously) :) 1) The plain text of the New Testament 2) the unanimous testimony of the Ancient Church, starting with various Apostolic Fathers that came immediately on the heels of the writing of the NT. 3) I got the...

Alright I will make this as tactful as possible to not break any rules. I also will try to avoid hot button issues like Trinitarianism and Arianism although I will have to mention things in passing and those things are really important in terms of Church history. 1) Doctrinal Structural...

Well, the first instance of this I have seen has been with apologetics against Islam. There is a Coptic priest that has something like a 60 million dollar price on his head for speaking out against Islam. He does so because in Islam they believe their faith is the most beautiful, true and...

By antics, I refer to the passive aggressive attempts to proselytize using the Sabbath and Sunday issue. Some of the Adventists are so bad, they really do everything in their power try to instill some kind of fear or paranoia in you over it. And it is never really clear why that would be...

This is one of those things that I knew would happen eventually, and I would not normally be that aggressive for such things. Where I knew Adventists were a little weird but still considered them within the boundaries of Christianity. But all their antics over Sabbath and Sunday caused me...

Absolutely! Because this is not just Biblical truth. Before there was "Biblical" there was the Apostolic Preaching and this essential fact was part of that. It was part of the most fundamental message of Christianity, the Gospel that is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ...

Amen! As I said on another board, Sunday worship was an important part of the ancient Christian witness. Not only did they proclaim the gospel and the resurrection on Sunday, but that message was also preached and reinforced by worshipping on Sunday. Ancient Christians also were sabbath...

Thanks for posting this! I have been battling the Seventh Day Adventists on Christian Forums over this stuff. In fact, just got banned today over it. :)

OK everybody I just got banned on Christian Forums for posting stuff against Seventh Day Adventists, aka SDA. And its been maybe 2 years or so, since I've been on this site. The last time, was when I got a one month ban on the political board at Christian Forums for offending liberal...

Didn't vote. I'm mostly against tattoos. At least for people living in the West, where they often don't represent anything positive, and can negatively affect your employment causing you to cover them up when at work etc. But I have had friends from Egypt and Ethiopia that have cross...