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Again, "not of works" refers to works of merit not obedience to God. If one could keep the law perfectly then he would merit his salvation and could boast about his own efforts in perfect law keeping. Yet obedience to God is never called a work of merit. Hence men are to work out their...

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Obeying God's commands is the only way to be justified for disobeying certainly does not justify anyone. 2 Thessalonains 1:8 in flaming fire God has vengeance on those who "obey not". The logical conclusion; one must obey to not be in flaming fire.

You can repeat this a million times but it fails to prove you point. Your position is wrong: 1) because the type of work Paul was speaking about in Rom 4:1-6 that does not justify is working to keep the law perfectly, flawlessly whereby one's reward is of debt and not of grace. Hence when...

Believing is obedience (John 3:36; Acts of the Apostles 14:1-2) believing is a work (John 6:27-29) yet it is not a work of merit whereby one earns the free free gift of everlasting life. But believing is meeting a necessary requirement God has placed upon receiving His free gift. Therefore one...

Some will claim people are saved by saying some kind of "sinner's prayer". If that were the case, then saying a sinners prayer is a work of merit. They conveniently define for themselves what they want to be works of merit (submitting to water baptism) and what they don't want to be works of...

Faith INCLUDES obedience to God's will not disobedience for all the disobedient will be lost. In fact, disobedience to God's will is faithLESSNESS. Abraham's faith included obedience and he was justified by that obedient faith. Disobedience justifies no one. And obedience is not a work of...

Nowhere ever does the Bible define obedience to God as a work or merit. This is a type of logical fallacy where obedience is purposefully given a false definition of being a work of merit so one can then turn right around and attack that false definition.

Genesis 15:6 does not teach Abraham was justified by faith only, men read that idea into the verse. Such an idea also contradicts James 2 ('NOT justified by faith only') and the Bible does not contradict itself. Genesis 15:6 was not the initial time Abraham had faith, Abraham already had faith...

No one was justified by disobeying God. --Each man is doing either 1 of 2 things, each man is either obeying God or disobeying God --Since disobedience does not, cannot justify --Then it must be obedience that justifies....."obedience UNTO righteousness" (Romans 6:16). Paul never said...

Salvation is by grace, not by works of merit. For if one could keep the law perfectly he would have no sin and those who are sinless have no need for grace therefore his reward would be of debt (Romans 4:4) and could boast of his flawless law keeping works. Yet no one's obedience will be...

The faith onlyists argument is dead for obedience to God's will is not a work of merit. Hence obeying God's will in submitting to water baptism is not a work of merit but doing GOD's righteousness and it is those who work righteousness that God accepts (Acts of the Apostles 10:35) --If Noah's...

Obedience is obedience. 1) The blind man's obedience in washing his eyes in the pool did not earn God's free gift of sight 2) Naaman's obedience in dipping 7 times did not earn God's free gift of healing 3) The obedience of the Jews in Acts 2 in repenting and being baptized did not earn the free...

Again, your argument is dead for it denies the clear, plain teachings from the Bible of the many examples of men obeying God's will yet not the first time is a faithful obedience to God called a work or merit.

Genesis 6:8 Noah did not find grace in the eyes of the Lord because he was perfectly sinless for he was not. But he found grace in the eyes of the Lord because he had a faithful obedience in that "he walked with God" hence he was seen as "righteous" by God. In order for him to continue to find...

The Bible does not teach men are born with a sin nature, such an idea makes man an innocent victim of sin and God a villain for condemning innocent man. Your argument continues to be dead for obedience to God's will is not a work of merit putting God in a position in owing man some thing for...

Eph 2:9 refers to works of merit, if one could keep the law perfectly then his reward would be of debt and not of grace (Romans 4:4) and one could boast of his own efforts. It does not refer to obedience to God's will for obedience to God is not a work of merit one could boast about. Naaman...

Yet some in this thread are trying to equate "hearing" to 'doing'. Just "thinking" about building the ark is NOT the required DOING in order to have the ark in reality.

Obedience is obedience...one is either obeying God or not. You then post "But if your doing works of obedience to try to be saved. Your trying to earn salvation." and your argument dies a horrible, painful death right here for obedience to God's will is not a work of merit as you call it...

If Noah only "heard" what God said about building the ark but was not a "DOER" of what he heard, that is, Noah was a "hearer only", then the ark would have never been built, Noah would have disobeyed God and therefore have died in the flood with the rest of the wicked people.