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  1. Ernest T. Bass

    The salvation journey.

    You did not show where the Bible calls obedience to God's will a work of merit. You are defining obedience in a wrong way, in a way the Bible does not define it so you can then attack it. Nor does the Bible put the free gift of salvation BEFORE one obeys. Noah and Naaman had to FIRST obey...
  2. Ernest T. Bass

    The salvation journey.

    I have asked this question many times on this forum in various threads with no answer yet: where does the BIBLE define obedience to God's will as a work of merit one does to earn God's free gift???????????? Was the healing of Naaman by grace OR he earned by the obedient work in dipping in the...
  3. Ernest T. Bass

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    So Noah just thinking about building the ark would have gotten the ark built. Incredible. The definition of ergon you gave is "a deed (action) that carries out (completes) an inner desire (intension, purpose)." (my emp) Noah just thinking about building the ark would not get the ark built...
  4. Ernest T. Bass

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    Produce the Bible verse that calls obedience to God's will a work of merit. Was the salvation of Noah from the flood by grace or Noah merited it by doing the work in building the ark? The cleansing of Naaman's disease by grace or was merited by his work in dipping in the Jordan 7 times? You...
  5. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation is by Grace through Faith.

    In order to receive the free gift of salvation requires obedience in believing (John 8:24) repent (Luke 13:3) confess (Matthew 10:32-33) and be baptized (Mark 16:16) live faithful unto death (Revelation 2:10)
  6. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation is by Grace through Faith.

    "no more of works"...the works here is not referring to obedience to God's will for those who obey God have always been God's people, as those who obeyed by not bowing to Baal.... "But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the...
  7. Ernest T. Bass

    Christians and Jews are both anti Acts 2:38.

    Rom 3:19-22 'the law' here refers to the OT law of Moses not Christ's NT law. In Romans chpts 1 and 2 Paul had proved that Gentile and Jew have sinned therefore are sinners. Sinners are need of justification. Paul spends the first part of Rom 3 telling us the OT law cannot justify. Therefore...
  8. Ernest T. Bass

    Christians and Jews are both anti Acts 2:38.

    Neither Jew (Acts 1) or Gentile (Acts 10) were command to believe only nor taught belief only saves so belief only is not the "like manner way" (Acts 15:11) Jew and Gentile are saved. Both Jew and Gentile were commanded water baptism for the remission of sins. Mt 28:20 Teaching them to observe...
  9. Ernest T. Bass

    Christians and Jews are both anti Acts 2:38.

    my point was that all God's commandments are righteousness. Therefore obeying God's commands is called doing righteousness, not mysticism. since God commanded men to be water baptized then submitting to baptism is doing righteousness.
  10. Ernest T. Bass

    When You Are Born Again of the Spirit

    Acts 2:38 the purpose of baptism is for the remission of sins. 1 Corinthians 1:12-13 water baptism is how one becomes 'of' Christ, come into the ownership of Christ Without water baptism no salvation and one remains outside the body of Christ, Galatians 3:27. The great comm. does not teach...
  11. Ernest T. Bass

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    If thinking is working/doing some thing, then Noah could have built the ark just by sitting and thinking about building it??? Would Noah have been saved from the flood void of his activity in building the ark? No. Would Naaman been cured void of his activity in dipping 7 times in the river...
  12. Ernest T. Bass

    The salvation journey.

    Maybe I misunderstood what your point is. Christ has already done what was required of Him for man to be saved. So are we dealing with what man's journey is in being saved? After man is physically born and is accountable to God's law, sins and becoming lost, what then is man's journey to being...
  13. Ernest T. Bass

    The salvation journey.

    Yes, God predetermined before the world began Christ would die for the sins of man and Christ has already accomplished that. So what must man do to take advantage of what Christ did?
  14. Ernest T. Bass

    The salvation journey.

    Again, all men would be UNCONDITIONALLY be saved Titus 2:11 if grace is Unconditional. It takes conditional obedience to Christ to receive grace (Hebrews 5:9) and continued obedience to Christ to remain in grace. Grace is CONDITIONALLY "in Christ" (2 Timothy 2:1) so one must CONDITIONALLY be...
  15. Ernest T. Bass

    The salvation journey.

    It was Christ's 'journey' to come to earth and die on the cross, shedding His blood. So Christ already has done what He needed to do to provide a path to salvation for men. Christ died for every man (Hebrews 2:9) yet every man will not be saved, therefore the issue I am dealing with is what is...
  16. Ernest T. Bass

    When You Are Born Again of the Spirit

    Romans 8 has nothing do at all with baptism with the HS, says nothing at all about baptism with the HS, you are reading that idea into the text. Since the baptism of the great commission is water baptism, it has been commanded, it saves and is administered by men. This means those who do not...
  17. Ernest T. Bass

    When You Are Born Again of the Spirit

    The great commission is about HOW to make new disciples and that being by baptizing them. Since disciples are made by baptizing, then for Christianity to be perpetuated thru time till the end of the world, men must continue to baptize men to make new disciples. The great commission does not...
  18. Ernest T. Bass

    Christians and Jews are both anti Acts 2:38.

    2 Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: The gospel is to be OBEYED, obeying is doing a "thing" and not doing this "thing" puts one in flaming fire. For one to obey the gospel of Christ, one must...
  19. Ernest T. Bass

    Christians and Jews are both anti Acts 2:38.

    Psalms 119:172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness. Since all of God's commands are righteousness, then obeying God's commands is doing righteousness, not obeying His commands is doing unrighteousness. You are making up this mystical stuff out of thin...
  20. Ernest T. Bass

    When You Are Born Again of the Spirit

    Mk 16:16; Matthew 28:19-20 is the baptism of the great commission which was commanded, had human administrators, saves and last till the end of the world. None of these thing are true about baptism with the HS, so it cannot be baptism with the HS. Only the Lord baptizes with the HS (Matthew...