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  1. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    Clearly. Were the ungodly eternally separated? Was the Church glorified with a body like his glorious body in 70AD. I think not.
  2. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    Yes, it is referred to as Gods righteous judgment. Rom 2 5 But because of your callous stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are [deliberately] storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. 6 He will pay back to each person according to his...
  3. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    The sword that comes out of the Lords mouth is his word. He has and is already wielding it. John 12:48 Whoever rejects Me and refuses to accept My teachings, has one who judges him; the very word that I spoke will judge and condemn him on the last day. That sounds more like the Lord I know...
  4. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    Thats what Jesus immediately conducts when he comes again. 21 For at that time there will be a great tribulation (pressure, distress, oppression), such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will [again]. 22 And if those days [of tribulation] had not been cut...
  5. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    Those verses are set in the time frame of the second coming as is clearly revealed by those scriptures. 31 “But when the Son of Man comes in His glory and majesty and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him [for...
  6. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    Hi David You are inventing a third group of people. One either comes to faith and is sanctified through the Spirit or one isnt through their unbelief. They are those who are under the strong delusion of satans activity in all deception..., 2Thess 2 9 The coming of the [Antichrist, the lawless]...
  7. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    According to 2thess 2 there are no survivors. The deluding influence sent by God sees all those who refused the gospel judged and condemned, rather than spared to enter into a proposed millennium period. Not a word is said about this extended period. Many other scriptures corroborate this...
  8. jeffweeder

    No one reigns and rules with Christ today

    Utter nonsense. Who has ever kept the law except Christ Jesus??? Answer is nobody, which is why God sent his only Son to save us through our faith. God commands today that all people everywhere repent and love the truth , and be sanctified by Spirit through their faith.. 2thess 2 9 The coming...
  9. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    Matt 28 18 Jesus came up and said to them, “All authority (all power of absolute rule) in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations [help the people to learn of Me, believe in Me, and obey My words], baptizing them in the name of the Father...
  10. jeffweeder

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Gods order and way regarding the introduction of Messiah to the people came only through John the Baptist. 26 John answered them, “I baptize [only] in water, but among you there stands One whom you do not recognize and of whom you know nothing. 27 It is He [the preeminent One] who comes after...
  11. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    He is the shepherd now not in the future. This is Amill. A shepherd is never without his rod. https://biblehub.com/sermons/auth/duff/the_shepherd's_rod_and_staff.htm
  12. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    How vague. Name one on this forum
  13. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    He shepherds/ rules now not in the future. That is Amill.;)
  14. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    No Amill I know believes that
  15. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    Yeah, I am sure you have heard of it. There is a classic one as well. AMP And she gave birth to a Son, a male Child, who is destined to rule (shepherd) all the nations with a rod of iron; and her Child was caught up to God and to His throne. AMPC And she brought forth a male Child, One Who is...
  16. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    Yes. That makes us ruling conquerors.
  17. jeffweeder

    There is no 'Spiritual Only' second coming, resurrection of the dead, nor reign on earth

    Lol what Spirit worketh in the Sons/ children of obedience? Without the Spirits rule we are no different to the disobedient.
  18. jeffweeder

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    Revelation 12:5 - Amplified version. And she gave birth to a Son, a male Child, who is destined to rule (shepherd) all the nations with a rod of iron; and her Child was caught up to God and to His throne. Revelation 2:27 and he shall shepherd and rule them with a rod of iron, as the earthen...
  19. jeffweeder

    Olivet Discourse revisited

    What were the disciples referring to when they asked Jesus that question on the mount?? What do you think? What question was Jesus answering?
  20. jeffweeder

    Olivet Discourse revisited

    Nonsense EWQ. What were the disciples referring to when they asked the question on the mount?? It is clearly the temple....., 1 Jesus left the temple area and was going on His way when His disciples came up to Him to call His attention to the [magnificent and massive] buildings of the temple...