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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    No, I do not think all of Revelation is chronological from beginning to end. There is a chronological format, but it requires understanding parts of John’s vision and where those parts he describes in various ways fits in. There are some parts that are chronological by the words given (ex. after...
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    Question: Why not believe in Christ's millennial reign on earth?

    Truth, I wanted to respond to the above quote. Please realize I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m only asking you to consider something else. Christ sent his followers out by 2’s throughout the world as witnesses. That is what the Church does today. I’m not teaching you anything you don’t already...
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    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    That is not so. I think you misunderstand me as well. How can I be more blunt? I will then address the aforementioned truth you say I reject: Jesus is the firstborn of the dead, Jesus is the first fruits of them that sleep. My difference in opinion is not based on Christ resurrecting first...
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    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    By your response, you failed to understand my meaning. Alas, It was directed to WPM.
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    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    You didn’t present anything useful to be swayed, learned from or even to cause my ears to tingle. I don’t reject you WPM, even if we see things differently. Certainly, I don’t reject God’s word. As much as you claim to study, Im sure you’re aware this subject has seen various viewpoints for...
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    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    The 1st resurrection of Jesus? Will there be a 2nd of Jesus? My position? You have no idea what it is. We haven’t spoken enough. Scripture only validates Christ was the first of those that sleep. He is not the 1st resurrection itself, but he’s called the resurrection. Rev 20 specifies a...
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    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Why not take it from the modern, classical or literal translations? Those translations, many which have stood the test of time, do not word it that way. It appears you specifically chose it as an attempt to validate your own claim. It is my opinion the context of said scripture is a gruesomely...
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    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    What version is this from? It’s not: NIV, NLT, ESV, BSV, BLB, KJV, NKJV, NASB, NASB 1985…Plenty more. I don’t see that version listed anywhere. It’s possible I missed it, but I’m curious now.
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    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    I enjoy reading this thread. Good work!
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    The Antichrist and the alien deception

    That’s left field. Come back to home plate. The context was man is wicked and God brought his wrath against man. In his wrath, there was deliverance to the faithful. In each story, man was blind to what was going to happen. Yet Noah and Lot were both warned beforehand. They survived, they...
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    Question: Why not believe in Christ's millennial reign on earth?

    You bring up a good point. Still, I can’t help but wonder. Arn’t those that caused him to be hung on a cross counted as those who pierced him? Perhaps it’s speaking of the people of that nation whose priesthood advocated it being the Jews. There is also the possibility it is larger, as you said...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    Well, If one day I care to hear your truth, I know where to find you. Good night.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    Some conversations are just to converse. Others because you enjoy the other’s company. Sometimes it’s nice to hear 1 persons opinion without other interference. My responses will be to him. Let him speak for himself without coercion.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    This is true. Nevertheless, I was in a conversation between him and myself. The question was to him. I did not add others by @(insert name). You may see the commentary and reply, just note I will not be responding to anyone but him in this specific questioning.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    The question was directed to Truth.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    As I pointed out earlier, Satan is not thrown into the lake of fire with the beast of the sea nor the beast of the earth per Rev 19:20 1st question: Where does Satan go? It’s only later that we read he’ll be thrown in there WHERE the false prophet and beast of the sea were per Rev 20:10. Why do...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    You did. I understand you believe Satan is currently bound and will be here at Armageddon which afterwards will be thrown into the lake of fire. It’s not my claim. I posted scripture verbatim. If you do not agree with it, then that’s between you and God. I posted 3 arguments. None were...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    I took my time and began to read slowly. Reading slow did not help your case, even in its triplicate. I presented specifics in the argument that you have not addressed. Instead of talking about them, you repeat copy and paste. Hardly an antidotal defense. If Satan is currently sealed in prison...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    If Satan is sealed currently, wouldn’t his second coming already have happened? It is concurrent with Satan being sealed, not a thousand years later. Now, I agree with your stance: Christ comes back at the end and the resurrection, catching up, final judgment takes place then. But those things...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    Ok, I read the bolded blue text. You suggest he can deceive people, just not nations to battle. If I disregard everything and only focus on your suggestion: He is currently bound today and cannot deceive the nations to battle Setting aside every nation war since 70AD, How do you explain WW1 and...