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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    Just a question. If Satan is currently bound, how is he still the god of this world per 2 Cor 2:4? If he is still the god of this world, than he is still the prince of the power of air per Paul in Eph 2:2 As one commentator says, the phrase signifies not “a power over the air,” but “a power...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    Your pride and unscriptural response’s demonstrate otherwise. Please give me 2 verses, that prove beyond a reasonable doubt, a standard Pre-TB resurrection of the dead happening before the 1st seal. I don’t need your commentary, just the book, chapter verse. Appreciate your reply.
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    Question: Why not believe in Christ's millennial reign on earth?

    Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. In power and glory; visibly; in the clouds; physically touched before the ascension; seen by over...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    There is scripture to explain that as well. But I don’t want to get into that. Not to have meaningful dialogue with you, but I’m more focused on other subjects that I’m currently responding to.
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    I've challenged them enough times as others have too. You deflect from me and others on scriptural points arguing you know better than us all. Your points have already been refuted but please continue with your diatribe. You want scriptural points. Ok, here is one. I mentioned that "Oros" isn't...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    What? Did you even notice Christ wearing a crown? It symbolizes his majesty. This is the moment of his manifestation when the Kingdom is his and he begins to reign; aka the 7th Trumpet. You’d know that based upon the previous verses detailing: Fear God, Babylon Falls followed by the mark. In...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    I’d rather have my question answered by him. When does “oros” identify as an asteroid? If a literal mountain (oros) fell into a literal sea, it would kill people. Ships are destroyed, a third of the sea life dies and their blood is in the sea. Yet no man dies….how odd!
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    When does “oros” identify as an asteroid? If a literal mountain (oros) fell into a literal sea, it would kill people. Ships are destroyed, a third of the sea life dies and their blood is in the sea. Yet no man dies….how odd!
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    It does nothing? Then why did God cause John to write it? Yes, it’s a seal. Yes, it seals the contents of the scroll. But it does and explains much! Without the 6th seal, it’s impossible to open the scroll, have God to rise, removal of the heavens to make way for new heavens, to demonstrate his...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    agree! Those who miss the Pre-TB rapture will be surprised. Surprised that it didn’t exist and will be caught unprepared for what comes which requires the patience of the saints.
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    The (Two Witnesses) Revelation 11:3-12 Will Be Literal Prophets Returned, In Literal Physical Bodies

    Is that really necessary? Is it possible to present your view without sarcasm? I may disagree with you but am disrespecting you because of a difference? No. Learn how to talk to people, or at least try to show compassion, love and respect even if you disagree. Try modeling Christ, not Satan.
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    The (Two Witnesses) Revelation 11:3-12 Will Be Literal Prophets Returned, In Literal Physical Bodies

    It sounds like you’re looking to argue and not trying to understand. Is that your point? As I said, all 8 times the “great city” refers to mystery Babylon. Not literal Babylon. Chapter 18 is all about Babylon falling. Do you mean you interpret spiritual Babylon as a spiritual Egypt and...
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    The (Two Witnesses) Revelation 11:3-12 Will Be Literal Prophets Returned, In Literal Physical Bodies

    I did not say Christ was slain in the streets of Babylon. Why take peoples words and distort them? Jesus was crucified outside the city in Judea where it’s said “outside the gates”. Hebrews 13:12 In knowing that, and as I said earlier, I find an interesting parallel to “crucifying Christ...
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    The (Two Witnesses) Revelation 11:3-12 Will Be Literal Prophets Returned, In Literal Physical Bodies

    Holy Whore! :p Hilarious. Reading that between you two was funny. Edit: I saw an article today on that a women talks about her sex life. What was interesting was she goes on about over +10 partners over her life and the picture of her for this article has her wearing a necklace with the...
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    The (Two Witnesses) Revelation 11:3-12 Will Be Literal Prophets Returned, In Literal Physical Bodies

    You misunderstood me. Yes, people left Jerusalem before the siege in the time leading up to 70AD. I was speaking about a verse in Revelation calling God’s people to come out of mystery Babylon, not Jerusalem in 70AD. I do not take Revelation as mostly historical as some do. Hope that helps.
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    The (Two Witnesses) Revelation 11:3-12 Will Be Literal Prophets Returned, In Literal Physical Bodies

    It is valid because of its context and grammar. Being crucified outside of a city is not the same as inside a city. The word for “in” versus “out” are opposites. If you think it’s generalizing, what else in this book are we going to generalize? It’s not. Let me explain, 8 times the great city...
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    The (Two Witnesses) Revelation 11:3-12 Will Be Literal Prophets Returned, In Literal Physical Bodies

    I respect you disagree. Can you please explain to me how Christ was crucified on a street in Jerusalem?
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    The (Two Witnesses) Revelation 11:3-12 Will Be Literal Prophets Returned, In Literal Physical Bodies

    I never said I believed it to be Rome. Please read my words carefully. And I don't teach some reformed theology. I don't know where you get this from. The Jews were not the only ones whose custom of grieving was casting dust on their head. That was the custom of many nations in that time...
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    The (Two Witnesses) Revelation 11:3-12 Will Be Literal Prophets Returned, In Literal Physical Bodies

    I realize some believe this and as you state above, some think it’s Rome. But I tend to agree with others, it’s not any literal city. It’s spiritual based and our coming out of her is spiritual based. God doesn’t need his people to come out of a Literal Jerusalem. Every city has wicked in it...