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    The (Two Witnesses) Revelation 11:3-12 Will Be Literal Prophets Returned, In Literal Physical Bodies

    @Marty fox I understand that Truth and Eqe will disagree, but please hear me out. The verse in question: And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Problem #1: If you take this literally, when...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    I know this question is for Ronald. I just wanted to ask, are you referring it to Pre-TBs 2 comings? 1. Christ leaves Heaven and comes for us in the air. 2. Christ leaves Heaven and comes for the “pre-TB saints” and the Jews on Earth That would make 2 Parousias and Christ leaving Heaven twice...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    Oh I didn’t ? Let’s examine this. I posted your prideful attitude to demonstrate how sickening it is. Your nakedness is seen by everyone here. Instead of seeing your own shame, humbling yourself, instead of apologizing, you dismiss it as not pride. Yet everyone else is saying it is pride...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    Such Pride More pride And More Pride Even More Pride And it keeps growing like Pinocchio's nose It's really long now This s how the King of Babylon and King of Tyre was, lifting themselves above all Oh, I understand it. I used to believe it. But I was shown its many errors. Something you...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    Benson: And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things — This expression seems to be taken from the description of the little horn in Daniel’s vision, (Daniel 7:8,) Barnes: The language used here is the same as what is found in Daniel 7:8 when speaking of the "little horn:" Gill...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    That’s backwards. Honestly, the only one that agrees with you is yourself. Right before the wedding, it’s announced that Christ reigns which correlates to the 7th trumpet. Something countless theologians, writers, biblical scholars and apologetics have said themselves. This is your response to...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    @Ronald D Milam You had posted this before: Rev. 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. There is your LAST...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. The 11th horn in the passage above is the same as below. And you’ve already said the man of sin is the false prophet. And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; The...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    Please look at the mouth being the horn and false prophet. View Daniel 7:8, Daniel 7:11 and Daniel 11:36 with Revelation 13:5
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    Here is why, as an Adventist, I believe America is in Trouble.

    Not so. That temple was not in the Holy City. She specified “Holy City” and matched it with “resurrection” and anyone not in the Holy City would be “locked out of its gates”. Matching Rev 22 New Jerusalem.
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    Satan gives his seat and power to the beast of the sea. The beast of the earth can use all the power of the first beast which was given by Satan. The beast of the sea doesn’t do signs and wonders; the beast of the earth does. The false prophet (beast of the earth) is the spokesman, the...
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    Here is why, as an Adventist, I believe America is in Trouble.

    Already answered if you read my replies
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    Here is why, as an Adventist, I believe America is in Trouble.

    I agree that God has people in all communions. Denominations are not what make someone a child of God. However, I don’t agree that you must observe a physical literal sabbath.
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    Here is why, as an Adventist, I believe America is in Trouble.

    I realize you don’t see it that way, but it is that way. She said the Holy city had a temple which is false. She laters says, And if one believed, and kept the Sabbath, and received the blessing attending it, and then gave it up, and broke the holy commandment, they would shut the gates of the...
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    The Mystery of Iniquity

    I was referring to the 2 words for wrath in Revelation and how I view the passage in each as having a specific function. Orge Orgē comes from the verb oragō meaning, 'to teem, to swell'; and thus implies that it is not a sudden outburst, but rather (referring to God's) fixed, controlled...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    I never said he was the beast. You’re not reading my words. Ronald, please read the text. Satan gives his power to the beast of the sea. The beast of the earth has the same power as the first beast per Revelation 13:12 !!! That means, as Gill says, Sitting in the same seat, having the same...
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    The Mystery of Iniquity

    What? That sounds confusing and contradictory.
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    The Mystery of Iniquity

    I agree there is only 1 second coming. Not 2 and not one in the air and a third when his feet touch the ground. I have it like this. The Orge wrath is directed on Babylon to answer the 5th seal martyrs. The Thumos wrath is the destruction of the wicked. This is the wrath the church is free...
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    The Mystery of Iniquity

    David H., I'm going to disagree with you here. The Day of the Lord beginning is easily expressed in the 6th seal. Examples: Isaiah 2:10 Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty Isaiah 2:19 And they shall go into the holes of the...
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    Here is why, as an Adventist, I believe America is in Trouble.

    Didn’t she write she saw the New City and it’s temple? Edit: Here is a transcript: I saw an angel swiftly flying to me. He quickly carried me from the earth to the Holy City. In the city I saw a temple, which I entered. I passed through a door before I came to the first vail. Problem #1...