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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Yes....it's just that once again you are only looking at one side of the coin: Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins Those...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I dont' know if we ever will be able to fully capture and understand these things this side of heaven, knowing only in part, and "who is sufficient for these things?", and sometimes I think I'm grasping it better than at other times. But I believe Jesus overcame as a man relying on God, to be...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The Lord Jesus is and will always be the only "man" to be raised by His own power. That's because He was also Divine. He said He had power to lay down His life and power to take it up again. That can't be said of any mere mortal man. He having power to take up His life again was because he...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    ok, that is good to know, thanks for answering that. What do you think of the verse that says our new man has been created after the image of He who created him? And what that implies.
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You might be confusing me with someone else.... I've never thought otherwise. I don't recall having any interactions with you until recently..
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    When Christ is in heaven He is in the form of God. Before He came to earth as a baby He was in the form of God. After His resurrection just before ascending back to heaven, He prayed the Father to give Him back the glory that He had with the Father before the world began. In other words, that...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    As I just showed, Jesus was not fully human in EVERY way. That is a biased paraphrased rendering you are using there - words of men, not God. "A body thou hast created for me"....Jesus came to earth in a physical body, but His spirit within Him, within His body was........Divine. Unlike the...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Wow, no. A thousand times, no. If that were the case any human could have been sacrificed to save mankind....there would have been no need for a heavenly man. The Law required a perfect, spotless, pure, entirely unblemished Lamb, aka heavenly/divine, because the blood of animals or any fallen...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Once again you prove you don't have ears to hear. I'm sorry for you.
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Absolute lie and hard to listen to...this is leading souls to perdition, not to salvation. It's not from the mind of Christ but from the mind of a virtue-signalling (aka self-righteous) man. I wonder what @Episkopos thinks of this.
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    The first man Adam was of the earth, earthy..........the second Adam became a quickening spirit. Jesus was not a "mere" man because He came from above, unlike the first Adam. And it is necessary to believe that He came from above, sent by the Father. God is not telling anyone to put their...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Amen brother Amigo. "Those who were appointed to eternal life BELIEVED." There are many scrips as we know, but this one alone tells us something about those who did not believe.
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    We need ears to hear that 1Tim 4:10 verse Epi...let the Holy Spirit give us light to see/hear. Well, the bible says our new man has been created after the image of He who created him. That must mean perfect, spiritual/eternal, holy and righteous, unless He who created our new man falls short...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    What do you not get about "the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.".........pre-figured in the scapegoat.........they were not His sins/iniquities because Jesus Himself didn't have any sins/iniquities of His own.......as scripture clearly states. You know, I don't think Jesus had any...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Yes, some people need to get to know scriptures better but they would rather run after their denominations and teachers and their own mind. And those scriptures do say Christ is God manifest in the flesh, and that He Word made flesh, the Word is God, who created the world and everyone in it...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Amen! The snakes (Satan/serpent and his works, all our sins/iniquities) were laid on Jesus and nailed to the cross in His body and He dragged them down into hades/death/destruction with Him....triumphing over them. Thus was the prince of this world judged.
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Amen. The wages of sin is death. The gift of God is eternal life and that is only through faith in Christ. It's either mortality or immortality. I do not see eternal life for souls outside of Christ. Perish means perish.....it means death, the wages of sin. "Fear Him who can destroy both...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Amen, He laid down His life, in obedience to the Father. "It pleased the Lord to bruise Him; He hath put Him to grief, and made His soul an offering for sin..." I was just making a point that Jesus died, at the point when He was forsaken (as it were) by God. The bible says He became sin for...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    I believe that if the Father hadn't looked away briefly, Jesus couldn't have died. Isn't that like us too at various times.......times when we "feel" forsaken by the Lord and the heavens are as brass are the times/seasons when something in us is dying that needs to die, or we are dying out to it.
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    All kinds of strange and unbiblical ideas floating around Christendom. As to speaking or not speaking, there is a time for everything under heaven, I believe.