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before i begin i am neither osas or osnas .what i am is a know so salvation i know i am saved and i KNOW NO MAN CAN PLUCK ME OUT OF THE FATHERS HAND ...... BUT SINCE YOU ASKED while you read what does the word eternal mean ? next have you ever went to be saved...

can you back that up with scripture?

so tell me have you ever seen the t.v show Fantasy Island your post like the show has NO Merit . you remind me of a little kid who has never been spanked. you cant even defend your stance ..i could blow you out of the saddle with scripture if i chose .. but i am not in the least...

RELIGION WILL SEND YOU TO Hell

its all Bible coming true Jesus said in math 24 let no man deceive you. many are deceived blinded BY THE god OF THIS WORLD the spirit of antichrist is moving across the land . sad thing is many are thinking they are Christians. but in reality they are of the 5 foolish virgins no oil

i just happened to google one world religion and there she is

One World Religion Headquarters Set to Open Next Year

maybe i should have been more clear on the struggling of sin unless you say you never have problems with sin.. i have always liked your post and have never came out against you.. buttttttttttttttt i dont think ever directly said any thing in the line of you struggling...

this is widely discussed or should i say fought over... i have studied both sides out i can see both points the doctrine of once in Grace always . is widely confused !! security is there what it is not and that is a license / excuse to sin and stay that way. i,m sorry its one...

exactly he knows just enough Bible to be dangerous .i seen many debates over osas osnas his ideology is out in left field . he simply has no clue

is that all you can say ? i mean seriously that is your best

is it your judging people to hell YOU NOR I HAVE THAT AUTHORITY :eek::oops::oops:o_Oo_O SERIOUSLEY stop defending your words you done posted good night dont lose your salvation tonight :p:p

pssstt do your self a favor go back and read word for word what my first post says.. read it real careful cause i am out of time to show any more scripture .. i get up at 4:30 a.m maybe you can cherry pock more scripture or be like a broken record repeat

so your the one who saves? congrts on doing CHRIST JOB WAS YOU SELECTED DO TO BEING SPECIAL ? save your energy i have studied both sides of the fence . i can shoot you down like s.a.m on a fighter plane

pssst do you need reading glasses i said abiding in HIM never read the NT? you have never read the n.t that is just what you posted lol:eek::rolleyes::D

lol so who are you trying to convince me or your self your judging same as any one else you should stop making excuses

really ? when did God give you Christ job ? we can NOT judge salvation i would be careful because i see judgment all in your post. clear the beam in your own eye first

not in them words nor does it read osnas o_O can you go to bed at night at wake up still saved? or did you lose it in the night

i have no idea why a topic like this started . no body will agree it causes fights. we can be eternally secure read the scriptures real close. this security IS NOT A LICENSE TO SIN .. yes many will say if i fall back or etc.. then my salvation is still secure i just...

those truly saved will remain/abide if one says there saved yet lives different with out making a effort odds are never saved.