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    Take A Stand - Stand to gain, or stand to lose?

    Have you found that to be satisfying? What could we do to make that more successful? [
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    Take A Stand - Stand to gain, or stand to lose?

    It seems so unfortunate that "Christian" forums have become a battle ground of conflicting beliefs. When they could have been a source of great support, encouragement and comfort. And in some cases, it is. But not the majority attitude. [
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    Take A Stand - Stand to gain, or stand to lose?

    That is an interesting way to state it. ("not a member of any building") This post is for all readers. Not aimed at you specifically Ritajanice. Decades ago, when I first started posting on "Christian" forums, I was shocked at the high percentage that were not a part of a local body of...
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    Take A Stand - Stand to gain, or stand to lose?

    I was asked a question recently about why I am still in the church? Good question. This led to me thinking about the larger subject of taking a stand. What does that look like? Or what could it look like? Over the years I have known many individuals that have taken issue with the church and...
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    The Problem of Christian Anti-intellectualism

    Most evangelical believers are stuck in "intellectual neutral" and are letting their minds go to waste. Too many evangelical congregations prioritize the cultivation of an experience and dismiss the vital role the mind plays in the life of the church. Too many intellectually gifted Christians...
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    Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.

    One of the requirements of Elder in the church is to be the husband of one wife. This infers that polygamy was common. Historically we understand wives were considered property of husbands. And it was common to keep female slaves for sex and also to use prostitutes. "A wife for legacy, a...
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/the-accuser-of-the-brethren-is-it-you.68614/ [
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Exactly. I have been cautioning those on the forum about bibliolatry for some time. (this topic) Met with lots of push-back, of course. I think it is one of the causes for believers not hearing the voice of God. They are dependent on the Bible. And suffering the consequences of their...
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    I find it fascinating how every believer is gifted in different ways. We are supposed to work together as body parts of the same person. (Christ) Most of what I hear from God is scriptural response to whatever situation I am in. In rare circumstances I hear prophetic and revelatory messages...
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    Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.

    Was that allowed under old covenant law? [
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    Is the "free gift" of salvation really free? - Honestly?

    A person needs to stay at it. Maturity comes at a price. Consider the end goal. We can grow a pumpkin in three months. An oak tree takes a hundred years. [
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    Is the "free gift" of salvation really free? - Honestly?

    The church calls it being discipled. They expect a believer to be mature in two years. That was the goal of the Navigators 2:7 program. [
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Yes, fallible humans. We no longer have the original autographs. (manuscripts) Only copies, of copies, of copies... Where there was inspiration, that's where it would be found. (did the translations retain it?) What we have in the Bible is our best guess as to what those original manuscripts...
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    Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things

    What do you make of this? Galatians 3:23-25 NIV Before the coming of this faith,[a] we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this...
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    I think so, yes. There are writings of the early church that are not a part. And for good reason, I think. But usually the "closed canon" idea is used to disqualify "extra biblical revelation". Thus tossing the spiritual gifts out the window. I think the Bible is a product of human...
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    Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.

    The cloth is presented to prove her virginity. That there was no fornication prior to marriage. [
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    Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.

    What is Deuteronomy 22:16-18 about, if not about fornication? [
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    Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things

    Straightforwardly? Do you mean the law given to Moses for the Israelites? Or the law of human conscience that made Cain's murder of Abel wrong? We still haven't settled on what the God's law is. When you say the Law of God, do you mean the Pentateuch? (the books of Moses) ??? How can any of...
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    Is the "free gift" of salvation really free? - Honestly?

    Do you really believe that the only benefit of salvation is in the afterlife? [