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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    That’s not correct, Paul didn’t disagree with a resurrection taking place, only that “the resurrection” was past already. Whatever resurrection Hymenaeus and Philetus were talking about was not in question, it was only that that resurrection was past already. Therefore Paul seems to be in...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    I agree with you on this, however I think John was seeing somethings that already took place in the visions he had in Revelation. Think about this, John himself was obviously involved in some of the visions he had yet he doesn’t record that he sees himself. Revelation 21:14 has the twelve...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    They obviously weren’t in agreement with Paul so they may have had the teaching but they didn’t hold it as being completely true.
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Because at that time they didn’t have the New Testament. It appears that Hymenaeus and Philetus were using verses such as those in Ezekiel 37, where the dry bones come to life, to claim the final resurrection had occurred and they were not part of it. In Matthew 27:52-53 there was a physical...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    What resurrection do you think Hymenaeus and Philetus were referring to? Obviously if they were claiming the final physical resurrection of the dead had already taken place then people would’ve just looked at the graves and simply concluded they were wrong, yet they were able to overthrow the...
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    Do you think there is a “coming” that happens to each believer at the time they physically die?
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    Hey EB, when I look at the Greek on Matthew 23:39 the word “coming” <2064> is not future tense, it’s present tense. So it seems to me, that since Jesus has now ascended to heaven, from our vantage point it should be rendered as “Blessed is he that came in the name of the Lord”. I’m by no means...
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    Ok, so what if the Jews refuse to make the statement? Do you think the Jews don’t have free will and they will be forced to make the statement?
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    Yes, I absolutely agree God is in control but if Jesus can’t return until the Jews make the Luke 13:35 statement then the Jews do indeed have some kind of say in when Jesus returns. I think Earburner has the correct interpretation on this, I don’t think the Jews can prevent Jesus from coming by...
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    Do you think Jesus’s return is contingent on the Jews saying blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord? In other words the Jews control when Jesus returns, and as long as they never say “blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord” Jesus can’t return.
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    THE NEW JERUSALEM

    I think one of the major differences people have on New Jerusalem is whether it represents the Church or not. I’m in the camp that it doesn’t represent the Church. In Revelation 22:9 John is shown the bride, Lambs wife, which is New Jerusalem. This equates the bride as New Jerusalem, so your...
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    In the parable of the minas there are ten servants, one servant gets ten cities and another servant gets five cities. It doesn’t say if the servant that initially got the single pound would’ve gotten a city or not but it’s implied. It’s safe to say that out of ten servants there are at least 23...
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    In Luke 19:11-26 is the parable of the Mina’s. In verse 17 the faithful servant receives authority over ten cities. This is man governing man and this takes place after the nobleman returns from receiving the kingdom. When will the faithful servant be governing the cities?
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    I agree, so “the end” can be referring to the cross. In fact we should be giving the events at the cross a high probability of being “the end” when we see that phrase.
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    Ok, so when does the end of sin take place? Doesn’t it happen when the 70th week is fulfilled? Jesus wouldn’t have to rule with a rod of iron unless sins were still being committed, so I guess that would put the end of the 70th week after the millennium and Satans little season if you’re Premill.
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    What verse are you getting that from?
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    The end of what? The end of sin which is in the Daniel 9:24 list?
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    I disagree, the abomination happened but the days of desolation were shortened which allowed the gospel to be preached in all the world before the end came (the desolation came). Colossians 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel...
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    Well, I don’t think the AOD occurred when Jesus died, I think it was the first sacrifice made after the veil was torn and the rocks rent. The disciples didn’t flee when they saw the AOD because they understood the book of Daniel (whoso readeth, let him understand) and they knew the days would...
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    Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

    I can’t argue against both 1260 and 1290 being 3.5 years. I realize if you have a 30 day month that an extra month or days have to be added somewhere to maintain accuracy. However I don’t necessarily think Daniel 12:11 should be viewed in that light, so I’ll leave it as something that is a...