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  1. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    I believe that the Bible is correct in the framework it presents. We can speculate on the stuff it doesn't speak to, but such speculation cannot be considered canon, nor can we shoehorn in extra-Biblical concepts that aren't even hinted at in our Bibles. Perpetual Virginity and [her] Immaculate...
  2. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    I find no basis to elevate any tradition above what the Bible does or does not say (which, incidentally, is the topic of this thread).
  3. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.
  4. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    It wasn't so much "dealt with" as it was disregarded. The linguistic gymnastics for that argument are still very improbable. Would such an argument be reasonable for any other woman and her husband in history? If nothing else, Matthew 13:55 shows that Joseph was still living with Mary when...
  5. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    It has only an improbable window for objection. (And the burden of proof would be on the improbable.) "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit." Matthew 1:18 NKJV The...
  6. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    What do I win if I show you such a Scripture...?
  7. Sabertooth

    People who don't believe in Jesus are going to Hell, correct?

    Jesus said, “If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is...
  8. Sabertooth

    People who don't believe in Jesus are going to Hell, correct?

    You mischaracterize Jesus and His Judgment. He loves mass murderers* just as much as He loves "nice" people (and we are all equally guilty before Him, without His intervention). He would much rather redeem than condemn, but condemnation is the only option that is left for those who would reject...
  9. Sabertooth

    People who don't believe in Jesus are going to Hell, correct?

    You identify as agnostic. You have no basis to advance rules of theodynamics* when you refuse to even recognize its underlying God. You are grasping at straws. Christians do not pronounce judgment. We are here to pitch Amnesty, but you have to acknowledge the impending Judgment in order to...
  10. Sabertooth

    People who don't believe in Jesus are going to Hell, correct?

    The concept certainly is. Getting Saved and living Saved require on-going, God-driven changes to our frame of reference. For the dissatisfied unbeliever, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot [even] see the kingdom of God.” --Jesus, John 3:3 NKJV For the committed...
  11. Sabertooth

    People who don't believe in Jesus are going to Hell, correct?

    You are asking a question for which the answer is outside of your paradigm.
  12. Sabertooth

    People who don't believe in Jesus are going to Hell, correct?

    No. People who won't let Jesus save them from Hell are going to Hell. (Believing on/in Him is just a bit of a precursor.) Know God
  13. Sabertooth

    Jokes, fun and comedy

    (At least, he was transparent about his intentions...!)
  14. Sabertooth

    Was Judas Saved Or Not Saved?

    It is my understanding that God moves in "seasons."
  15. Sabertooth

    Was Judas Saved Or Not Saved?

    It seems more like contact anointing (from Jesus) than an infilling. See 2 Kings 13:20-21. "Then Elisha died, and they buried him. And the raiding bands from Moab invaded the land in the spring of the year. So it was, as they were burying a man, that suddenly they spied a band of raiders; and...
  16. Sabertooth

    Was Judas Saved Or Not Saved?

    It was more like the Old Testament model (like Elijah & Elisha), but they had Jesus, in Person, to tutor them. Jesus, Himself, said that He had to leave so the Holy Spirit could come [John 16:7-8] and be at more places at once. His disciples were markedly more focused and confident after...
  17. Sabertooth

    Was Judas Saved Or Not Saved?

    Looking at Peter's rebuke of Jesus' prophesied death [Matthew 16:21-23] and his later denial of Jesus [Matthew 26:69-75], I would say that all of the disciples were primarily moving in the flesh prior to the Pentecost. Other examples, James & John wanted to call down fire on the Samaritans...
  18. Sabertooth

    Cessastionism ,What is it?

    It is the belief that the charismatic gifts (at least, the "weirder" ones) prophesied in Mark 16:17-18, exhibited throughout Acts and described in 1 Corinthians 12, Romans 12, & Ephesians 4 have ceased along with an "Apostolic" age. More at Cessationism versus continuationism - Wikipedia
  19. Sabertooth

    What is our role as a Christian at this present time in the World?

    “He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” Micah 6:8 NIV "And [Jesus] said to them, 'Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be...
  20. Sabertooth

    Funny memes, it's good to laugh!

    Hey Wiretap,...