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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    Exactly! Receiving the Spirit is not the same as receiving the gifts manifested by the Spirit once it's in you. But furthermore, that was only in biblical times since the gifts, or manifestations of the Spirit, became available through the laying on of the apostle's hands, and they are long dead.
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    'Tou' in Greek is generally 'the' or 'of the'. Doesn't change anything. What's your point and what is it you disagree with and are trying to prove or disprove? You've not stated what you believe and why with supporting scriptures. If you want to argue for the sake of arguing, go do so with...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    True! But the problem is many people wrongly assume this passage is stating that this means the various gifts of the Spirit and by your baptism you also should automatically receive gifts. That's the difference in singular and plural, gift and gifts. Acts 2 :38 has nothing you do with bestowing...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    The Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost are one in the same and interchangeable which is why I stuck them together just in case the reader more commonly referred to one vs the other. Moot point. And the Greek interlinear in Acts 2:38 says "the gift of the Holy Spirit". The gift of the Holy Spirit...
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    The point you made is exactly the point I made or rather that the bible makes regarding the distinction in the way the Holy Ghost is referenced in Acts 2 as opposed to the manifestation of the Spirit as delineated in 1 Cor 12:8-10. In Acts 2:38, we all who are baptized receive THE gift of the...
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    The common misunderstanding is confusing receiving the GIFT (singular) of the Holy Ghost per Acts 2:38, with the miraculous manifestation of the Spirit, the GIFTS, plural, those covered in 1 Cor 12:8-10 which become manifested as discussed previously, by the laying on of the apostle's hands...
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    I just covered this with someone else yesterday. You have to read the text closely as there's a difference in what the Lord Said in his instructions to Ananias in verse 12, as opposed to what Ananias said in verse 17. See below. The Lord's instructions to Ananias said nothing whatsoever about...
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    Acts 2 and 10 were unique and not the norm wherein the Spirit fell unilaterally as a sign, to validate what was occurring to the Jews in Jerusalem, and to Peter in Caesarea. In both cases, what occurred was the beginning of the church, 1st in Jerusalem and then amongst the Gentiles in Caesarea...
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    It does make a difference without the 'a'.
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    Just FYI, the KJV says "God is a spirit" in John 4:24, however, if you look at the origional Greek in the interlinear, it says "God is spirit", no 'a'. Other translations have likewise translated this to agree with the Greek, even the New KJV leaves out 'a'.
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    The power from on high as referenced in Luke 24:49 by Jesus to his apostles, gave THEM the ability to enable the manifestation of the Spirit, the gifts as they are commonly referred to today, which they solely did as noted in such passages as Acts 5:12, Acts 6:6-8, Acts 8:9-17, Acts 19:6.
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    The distinction is between gift and gifts, one being the gift or indwelling of the actual Spirit itself, and the other is the manifestation of the various miraculous gifts that are or were bestowed upon individuals subsequent to having the Spirit within them, brought about by the laying on of...
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    Just for clarification, the Samarians not only believed, but were baptized, and by doing so, they received the Holy Ghost according to Acts 2:38. And the reasons are the same for both the Samarians and the Ephesians as to when and how they received the gifts (plural) of the Spirit (not the...
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    Proclaiming or professing to be a Christian doesn't mean you are. There is a process by which one BECOMES a Christian. 1. Belief and faith 2. Confession of belief as did the Ethiopian eunuch and consistent with Romans 10:9 3. Repentance as was told the Jews must do on the day of Pentecost in...
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    The scriptures tell you why Jesus was baptized: to fulfill righteousness Mat 3:13-15
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    It's simple. They, the Samarians, had only heard the word, believed, and were baptized meaning they were saved, members or the Lord's body, and received the gift (singular) of the Holy Ghost/Spirit itself (Acts 2:38-47), but not gifts (plural) or manifestations of the Holy Ghost/Spirit, those...
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    Why Easter Is Important

    Believe what you like and break God's word wherever it's convenient for you to do so since it's not stated to keep it all the time. Goodbye
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    Why Easter Is Important

    Your logic is not sound. In other words, it's OK or it was OK back then to deviate from God's word except for the books only in which the warnings were noted. That's dumb. God's word us everlasting and unchanging and certainly cannot be abridged by man simply because his warnings were not...
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    Re Spirit baptism

    New Beachhead? No, just proper understanding of scripture as relates to the manifestation of the Spirit, or gifts of the Spirit as they are commonly referred to. Spiritual gifts: unconfusing them. 2 Parts