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  1. Aunty Jane

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Early Church Fathers…..no guarantee of incorruption in their writings as none of them were included in the canon.
  2. Aunty Jane

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Are they a local group? A national group or an international group? Do they have a name? Not sure how that relates to what I posted…. I am sure many “Christians” would agree with you….but how do you accomplish that with so much disagreement? And what laws would you be seeking to keep? Christ...
  3. Aunty Jane

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    And also where Jesus says in Matt 28:19-20 to teach and to baptize “in the name of“ the Father, son and holy spirit…..there is not a single reference to these three being one God…..it is suggested. But to do something “in the name of” someone else is to acknowledge their authority over you. If...
  4. Aunty Jane

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The Law given to Israel was nailed to the execution stake with Christ….he is the end of the old law covenant. The new covenant was a whole new ball game, leaving most of the laws given to Israel as invalid for Christians…like all the unclean foods they could not eat….now they could. That they...
  5. Aunty Jane

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Do you have a brotherhood who all believe as you do? It is not possible to be a Christian in isolation from those who hold the same truth, no matter what nation they live in (Acts 15:14; Acts 10:34-35)……God’s spirit unites his people…it does not divide them. There is one Bible…”one Lord, one...
  6. Aunty Jane

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    There is no Sabbath command for anyone but Israel. It was part of the Law given to Israel but not applied to gentiles. When Jewish Christians wanted to impose the Law on their gentile brothers, and wanted them circumcised, the elders and apostles in Jerusalem had a meeting to discuss what was...
  7. Aunty Jane

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The truth will resonate only with those whom God invites to understand what is written in his word. (John 6:44, 65) No one will understand without God inviting them to….what does this result in? Matt 7:13-14…. ”Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road...
  8. Aunty Jane

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Since “the beginning” is a past tense reference, so is the expression “the Word WAS with God, (ho theos...Yahweh) meaning that he has been with his God and Father since “the beginning”....but the beginning of what? God had no beginning. If Jesus is God’s “firstborn” then that term suggests...
  9. Aunty Jane

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Its easy....just break the quotes up so that you can answer one at a time....it works for me... “Un-merry”....now there’s new word....Are you having a “merry” time by celebrating a pagan festival originally held in hnor of a false god?......I think you need to try to help yourself first....OK...
  10. Aunty Jane

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I could if there were not so many other verses of Scripture that shoot the trinity down in flames.....the very fact that it is not spoken about as something to be upheld in any verse of the Bible....not one direct mention of it by either the Father or the son....and the mostly mute Holy Spirit...
  11. Aunty Jane

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    There is no doubt that God provided what was needed to sustain his son whilst in the throes of dying.... That is what he came to do.....but satan made sure that he suffered as much as possible.....as much as a human can endure, just as he had done with Job......but Jesus knew where his suffering...
  12. Aunty Jane

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    ESV…“And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God's creation.” “And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write:These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God”...
  13. Aunty Jane

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    But in most (not all) of those other translations, it isn’t what John 1:1 says in Greek… I have repeated this many times…if the divine name had been retained by the Jews, the later doctrine of the trinity could never have taken root in Christianity… If the English translators were not swayed...
  14. Aunty Jane

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Did you notice the difference though? God is the the one “FROM WHOM“ are all things….whereas The one Lord Jesus Christ is the one “THROUGH WHOM are all things….so not the same at all. If I do something “through” someone else, but I provide the materials and the plans….who is the end result...
  15. Aunty Jane

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Thomas was one of the 12…correct? Did he have a different view of God to the rest of the apostles? Paul, speaking for all the apostles said….at 1 Cor 8:5-6… ”For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is...
  16. Aunty Jane

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Firstly, I do not see Christ as an immortal being from his creation up until his birth as a human. He has always been God’s “firstborn” from “the beginning”….”before all things”….(Col 1:15-17) God as an eternal being, had no beginning, but his son did. (Rev 3:14) Jesus the man was 100% human...
  17. Aunty Jane

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    The Bible clearly states that the son is God’s “firstborn”…his “only begotten”…..and that he existed “before all things” and was used in their creation…..the Bible argues with that premise. (Col 1:15-17; John 1:2-3) Who was God talking to in Gen 1:26? Angels had no part in creation except as...
  18. Aunty Jane

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    No…..it’s the same word that was used in John 1:1 (theos)….it is not a word that means only “God” with a capital “G”…..it is a word that is descriptive of any divine personage or a representative of that one. Read John 10:31-36 in a Greek Interlinear and see that God (Yahweh) is always...
  19. Aunty Jane

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Since you seem fond of posting scripture with no comment, can we have a look at what it means to “BELIEVE”? James 2:19 gives us some perspective…. ”You believe that there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder”. So what are we to make of that….what...
  20. Aunty Jane

    Driving.

    @Ritajanice…got my license at 17, was a natural born driver and have loved driving all my life. I never lived in a big city where public transport was a viable alternative. Always hated busses and trains and the time wasted waiting for them. In my seventies now, and still drive everywhere...