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  1. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    I never said that and you know it. I have said that the shed blood of Jesus PAID for the sins of the whole world. They are gone never to be seen by God again if a person places their faith (trust) in what God has done for them. BUT if they reject what He has done and replace it with what they...
  2. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    *** People have made an idol out of the so called Christian church which is no longer based on the work of Jesus on the cross but based on their becoming like God (See what Satan said to Eve) and what they can get out of it. I see you wish to discount the tragic story and that shows you do not...
  3. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    A tragic story: It has been my lot to find out, first hand, the results of those that teach sinless perfection in the flesh; that God changes our sinful flesh nature. The result of this teaching causes many to give up hope and turn away from Jesus. When I was about 25 years old I worked for a...
  4. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    ** Let us cut out the fencing and state what we are saying. I still sin in my flesh and I know it. And acknowledge it to God. But you are deceiving yourself if you think you no longer sin in the flesh. I am saying that God has created a salvation that sins sinners (the ungodly). It...
  5. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    *** Glad to hear that you no longer sin in the flesh. Keep up the good work.
  6. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    *** LOL, I have never said it is impossible to be saved. But according to Jesus it is impossible for a man to become sinless by his works. The problem as I see it is that you are saying your FLESH is without sin because you now have the power to not sin in the flesh. The spirit does not sin...
  7. H. Richard

    Who Started That Lie?

    *** Yes it did.
  8. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    *** I think you are just deceiving yourself.
  9. H. Richard

    Who Started That Lie?

    NO! God does not need to """PASS OVER OUR SINS"" since they have already been paid for. I answered this question but I see you ignored it. NO ONE GOES TO GOD"S HEAVEN UNTIL THEIR SINS ARE PAID FOR, PERIOD. Man's sins were not paid for until Jesus shed His blood on the cross to pay for them...
  10. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    *** Do you sin willfully?
  11. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    *** Very cute but it only elevates your ego and self-righteousness. Why! Because you are saying you are sinless. If you want to live in a sinful body you can but the child of God no longer WANTS to live in a body that sins. That is why they rejoice in the what Jesus did on the cross. He made...
  12. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    *** No!, You just want to pass over the fact that Paul said; Rom 7:25 25 I thank God — through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin. NKJV Then he goes on to say that there is therefore no condemnation for those in...
  13. H. Richard

    Who Started That Lie?

    *** Sorry you disagree but the scriptures tell us that before Christ God pasted over the sins of the righteous. Rom 3:24-25 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate...
  14. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    IMHO this is saying 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the works of the flesh, but according to their faith in the work of Jesus on the cross.
  15. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    *** I said Romans 7 not 8. You don't seem to want to take all of scriptures just the ones hat you think say God changes out sinful flesh. Rom 7:23-25 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my...
  16. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    *** Show the scripture reference or are we to just accept your word for it.
  17. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    You say he didn't. Where did you find that in the scriptures?
  18. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    **** So you are saying you no longer sin in the flesh, right! Or is that power you have been given limited. You really need to listen to what Paul said in Romans 7. There is a war between the flesh and the spirit in a child of God. But the child of God already has the victory but not by...
  19. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    ** So are saying David went to hell because he sinned? Get over it! The only righteousness that the children of God has is that righteousness given to him as a free gift through the blood of Jesus. The children of God have been imputed with God's righteousness. Rom 3:21-22 __ God's...
  20. H. Richard

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    ***** I take it that you are saying that you are faithful. To what or whom are you faithful? Do you faithfully teach that Jesus' shed blood on the cross has paid for the sins of everyone but only applies to that that believe it does? I do not believe that God has given mankind a CLASS system...