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I see you are saying that having faith in faith will not save anyone. Does that mean that a person who has placed their belief, faith, trust, confidence in what Jesus did on the cross is having faith in faith? Doesn't sound like that to me unless you wish to twist it by double speak. You have...

IMHO I think God elected that those who would place their belief, faith, trust, and confidence in Jesus' work on the cross would be saved.

*** IMO Jesus doesn't give US the power to make ourselves Holy unless you are talking about faith in His work on the cross being the power. Faith in His shed blood makes us Holy (set apart). Man can not make himself Holy by what he does. Jesus does not make the flesh Holy. We worship God in...

These are posted to show that man's works are not a part of a person's salvation. No where in them is a mention of man's works. It only mentions believing in Jesus. John 5:24-27 24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and...

*** What you have said above is a lie. The scheme (as you call it) is my saying that salvation is the work of Jesus on the cross where He paid for all the sins of mankind. FAITH PLUS NOTHING! That is what God has done and that is my scheme to preach to everyone, Okay, I don't take that to...

*** It is only when when a person realizes that they HAVE those same things in their life that they will know they are lost and reach out to God. It is the work of the Holy Spirit to try and make sinful mankind to see into their OWN heart. But there are those that will not do that. They only...

*** We can bat this "freewill" thing around if that will accomplish anything. But the scriptures tell us it is a choice to follow God or Satan. If a choice then we have freewill. Abraham choose to follow God's will for him. When God poured out His wrath on Sodom He killed everyone there...

*** You have it wrong. According to scriptures they are given the Holy Spirit when they place their belief, faith, trust, confidence in Jesus' work on the cross. The children of God have the Holy Spirit and your saying they do not have Him is your lie. Oh yes, the Christian things. You are...

*** God gave us free will. We are not robots.

And I am sure you think you don't do any of these things, right? Paul writes to the believers of the gospel of grace who walk in the spirit (walk in faith) and have no confidence in the flesh. Phil 3:3 3 For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and...

*** So if I have faith that what Jesus did on the cross has saved me I have faith in my faith. What kind of double talk is this. You said; "Now if you truly believe, turn away from any sin you might know of, find a church to baptize you, and try to walk according to God's word." You are...

**** I am sorry that you have mis-understood what I write. It was you that brought into the discussion the word obedience. Yes there is a difference in those that believe and those that do not believe. I have stated that difference many times. Those that are in denial that Jesus paid for...

*** What sins do you think Jesus paid for? The scriptures say He paid all sins. I believe it means He paid for all the sins of the flesh that condemn a person. What do you think? You said " Okay then who are the elect? I have been giving my answer but I want your answer.

*** It is a mystery as to how you came up with these remarks. I never said anything as you have said in this reply. My whole postings have been that Jesus's shed blood has paid for all the sins of the world. That is not just me saying it the scriptures also say it. However if you DON'T...

*** Normally I don't reply to but I will make this an exception. According to Paul's gospel we who believe are made children of God by the Holy Spirit and are no longer subject to God's wrath. The only judgment we will face is for rewards. Not given because we keep the law but for any and all...

*** Still at it aren't you. Disobedience is not taking God at His word. It is the same as not believing God. Now the religious will try to make it disobedient to the Law of Moses but that was BEFORE Jesus paid for all the sins of the flesh. According to Paul's gospel that was given to him...

God has written in the scriptures that Jesus paid for all the sins of mankind on the cross. In simple language that means ALL. It means that all mankind has a pardon paid for by God's Son, Jesus Christ, on the cross. However, only those that believe God will trust in that pardon. Sad to say...

*** I see that you are going to try and get there anyway. Heb 4:1-10 4 Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not...

*** LOL, If you look at my OP you will see that all the scriptures were from the NKJV (New King James Version)

*** I think I know where you are going to go with this. Unbelief in itself is not a sin except when it is unbelief in what God says. LOOK IT IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. If a person does not believe what God says isn't that person doing what Eve did in the garden? What the Jews did when they...