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  1. Ernest T. Bass

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    AT Robertson had not problem that in Matthew 26:28 the Greek is "FOR the remission of sins". Yet when he got to Acts 2:38 with the same exact phrase "for remission of sins in both Greek and English" he is no longer sure what "eis" means. The reason he is no longer sure that eis means "for" is...
  2. Ernest T. Bass

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    You do not seem to see that the Bible speaks of different types of works and that all works are not the same. Some works will not save as works of merit or perfect works required by the OT law yet obedience to the will of God does save. No verse eliminates obedience from being saved. Since...
  3. Ernest T. Bass

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    They have not grown, matured as they should have.
  4. Ernest T. Bass

    Is BAPTISM MANDATORY for SALVATION...

    Baptism does not prevent one from sinning at all. Those who have been baptized still do sin. Baptism is the BEGINNING point of Christ's blood washing away all sins. Once baptized, the newly baptized person then must CONTINUE to walk in the light (1 John 1:7) so that the blood of Christ...
  5. Ernest T. Bass

    Is BAPTISM MANDATORY for SALVATION...

    NT faith INCLUDES repentance, confess and baptism. If faith does not include repentance, confession and baptism then it is dead, worthless.
  6. Ernest T. Bass

    Is BAPTISM MANDATORY for SALVATION...

    --The "thief argument" is based on an assumption the thief had never been baptized. No verse definitively state if he had been baptized or not, so the "thief argument" has no bases. The thief is not an example of NT salvation (Hebrews 9:16-17) meaning he was not accountable to Acts 2:38...
  7. Ernest T. Bass

    OSAS beginning ?

    I am not adding words to your mouth but pointing out: 1) salvation is conditional and as long as one CONTINUES to meet the condition (faithful obedience) one continues to be saved. One quits meeting the condition he becomes lost. 2) 2 John 1:9 shows that the Christian can become an apostate...
  8. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Jesus perfect obedience made Him a perfect sacrifice for sin. Man's obedience is necessary to take advantage of Christ's perfect sacrifice. Those that conditionally obey will be the ones whose sins will be cleansed by the blood of Christ. God has decided that the blood of Christ is...
  9. Ernest T. Bass

    OSAS beginning ?

    2 John 1:9 is talking about apostates..apostasy. The Greek word for apostate means one who has moved away from his place: What is Apostasy? Bible Meaning and Definition John is warning about becoming an apostate in moving from one place (saved - abiding in Christ's doctrine) to a different...
  10. Ernest T. Bass

    OSAS beginning ?

    Because salvation is CONDITIONAL upon repentance. The impenitent will be lost Romans 2:4-5. If the Christian will not confess, repent of his sins and quits walking in the light (1 John 1:7-10) he will become lost. God does not forgive those that will not repent.
  11. Ernest T. Bass

    OSAS beginning ?

    The Bible does not speak of an indwelling of the Holy Spirit that unconditionally guarantees the Christian salvation. God's grace is the same OT and NT. In order to receive grace and continue in grace conditionally requires continued obedience to God's will on the part of man. The Christian...
  12. Ernest T. Bass

    Are Some Unable To Be Renewed To Repentance?

    The church at Ephesus (Revelation 2:4-5) was made up of individuals. When the individuals at Ephesus left their first love, then the church there at Ephesus left Christ and was fallen. Those therefore in a state of unbelief have lost salvation, unless, until they repent.
  13. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    I did not say you changed those verses you cited, but my point was that you did not cite ALL salvific verses. There are dozens upon dozens of verses that deal with salvation therefore the 5 verses you cite do not come anywhere near exhausting all there is to know about salvation. You did not...
  14. Ernest T. Bass

    OSAS beginning ?

    Salvation is conditional upon one having and keeping faith for the faithless will be lost. Romans 5:1-2 only those that conditional have and keep faith are justified and have access to grace by that faith. But the faithless are unjustified and have no access to grace as long as they remain in...
  15. Ernest T. Bass

    OSAS beginning ?

    The Jews who were cast off, broken off from being God's elect (Romans 11) yet they believed in God (not atheists) but did not believe what God said about the Messiah therefore they did not believe Christ therefore rejected Christ. The Christian can sin and not become lost AS LONG AS HE...
  16. Ernest T. Bass

    OSAS beginning ?

    John is addressing Christians when he writes "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son." Whosoever means any Christian that does not continue to abide (present tense) in...
  17. Ernest T. Bass

    OSAS beginning ?

    It is not my opinion that salvation is CONDITIONAL. As long as one continues in the word of God he will be saved but falling away from the word leaves one lost. 2 John 1:9 applies to Christians that does not abide (present tense) in the doctrine of Christ, he will become lost, not of God. The...
  18. Ernest T. Bass

    Are Some Unable To Be Renewed To Repentance?

    Revelation 2:4-5 "Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent."...
  19. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    I cannot find where the Bible defines baptism as you have done here. One is saved by doing God's righteousness and not by doing one's own righteous works. Tts 3:5 "works of righteousness we have done" eliminates one from doing his OWN righteousness but does not eliminate one from doing God's...
  20. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Baptism is a necessity but not the ONLY necessity. As belief is a necessity but not the ONLY necessity. I have pointed to verses that show belief and repentance and confession are all of equal importance and necessity to being saved as baptism. The verses as Acts 2:38; Mark 16:16; 1 Peter...