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  1. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Again, I have posted numerous times that since there is just one way to be saved, then NT faith/belief MUST include repentance, confession and baptism: John 3:16-------------------belief>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>saves/not perish Luke 13:3------------------repentance>>>>>>>>>>>saves/not perish Romans...
  2. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    I did not play "pick and choose" but posted 3 verses and asked why is it I can understand and accept those verses at literal face value while other people cannot but must find a way to change them. That should raise a red flag for some people. As far as the verses you cite above, I have...
  3. Ernest T. Bass

    OSAS beginning ?

    If the Christian does not continue in the word of Christ he will become lost, no longer being a disciple of Christ. No salvation apart from the word of God. 1 John 2:5 1 John 2:24 John 8:30-31 Jesus was speaking to Jews that did believe Him and if they continued in His word they would be true...
  4. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Acts 2:38 "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." 1...
  5. Ernest T. Bass

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    In writing to Christians, John said "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin." The verb "cleanseth" is present tense denoting an ongoing, sustained action. The cleansing by the...
  6. Ernest T. Bass

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    Jamieson, Fausset, Brown "with the washing of water — rather as Greek, “with,” or “by the laver of the water,” namely, the baptismal water. So it ought to be translated in Titus 3:5, the only other passage in the New Testament where it occurs" AT Robertson even admits "The reference here seems...
  7. Ernest T. Bass

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    Proper exegesis is words are to be understood in their literal, primary meaning unless something in the context states otherwise. In John 7:38-39 we are explicitly told that water is being used figuratively. But there is nothing in the context of John 3 that water means anything other than...
  8. Ernest T. Bass

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    "Born of water" is a reference to water baptism. The new birth consists of two elements Spirit and water. The role of water is water baptism. The role of the Spirit is the Spirit's word, the Bible that instructs men on how to be saved through water baptism. Therefore those men that obey the...
  9. Ernest T. Bass

    Is BAPTISM MANDATORY for SALVATION...

    What verse definitively states the thief had never been baptized? Why could he not have been among all those of Mark 1:5 baptized of John?
  10. Ernest T. Bass

    OSAS beginning ?

    Over the course of a Christian's life, the Christian's faith can be strong and can be weak at times. As long as the Christian does abandon his faith altogether but continues onward he will be saved.
  11. Ernest T. Bass

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    Fleshly birth did not put the Jews into the kingdom of God/the church. Under the OT law physical birth put the Jew into a covenant relationship with God but the NT requires a spiritual birth that happens when one is water baptized to be in the kingdom. The Jews in Acts 2 that obeyed v38 and...
  12. Ernest T. Bass

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    Obedient works are necessary for one to be saved. 1 John 3:10 still says those who continue to not do God's will continue to not be of God. This is why you will never show example under the NT gospel where one was saved and of God while remaining in impenitent, rebellious disobedience to God...
  13. Ernest T. Bass

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    John 3:5, 1 Corinthians 12:13 or Titus 3:5 say nothing at all about a "spirit baptism". YOU ADDED that idea to those verses. John 3:5-------------SPirit+++++++++water>>>>>>>>>>in the kingdom 1Cor 12:13----------Spirit+++++++++baptized>>>>>>>>>in the body Tts 3:5------------Holy...
  14. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    God has chosen water baptism as the point HE saves, baptism is the point God removes the body of sin (Col 2:11-13), baptism is the point the blood of Christ washes away sins (Rev 1:5; John 19:34; Romans 6:3-5) baptism is how one obeys the gospel of Christ to keep from being in flaming fire...
  15. Ernest T. Bass

    OSAS beginning ?

    Upon one becoming a Christian, he must continue to live the life of a Christian and not fall away becoming an apostate. Hence Christians are given heed to continue, to be faithful unto death (Revelation 2:10). It is why the verb "believeth" in many verses as John 3:16 is in the present tense...
  16. Ernest T. Bass

    Is BAPTISM MANDATORY for SALVATION...

    --The Bible already teaches the necessity of water baptism, hence I added nothing to what is already there. --obedient works in doing God's will (Matthew 7:21) are necessary in order for one to be saved/enter the kingdom. There is no example under the NT gospel of God saving those who remained...
  17. Ernest T. Bass

    Is BAPTISM MANDATORY for SALVATION...

    We know Paul was baptized for forgiveness of sins (Acts 22) so there is every reason to believe the original 12 Apostles were also baptized for remission of sins. Even though the Bible does not give specifics about the 12 Apostles being baptized, I believe there is sufficient evidence given...
  18. Ernest T. Bass

    Is BAPTISM MANDATORY for SALVATION...

    God has required baptism, therefore how can anyone add to the Bible what God has already put in the Bible? Hebrews 2:9 Christ death is enough to save every man yet every man will not be saved for every man will not be baptized in the name of the Lord. In 1 Corinthians 1:13-14 "Now this I say...
  19. Ernest T. Bass

    OSAS beginning ?

    It appears OSAS has its origin in the garden of Eden where God told Adam and Eve "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." But Satan told Adam and Eve "Ye shall not surely die:"...
  20. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    You posted "If baptizing saves, why does Paul state he doesn't even know who he baptized let alone state he was glad he baptized none of them? " It appeared to me that your point was to try and use 1 Corinthians 1:14-18 as 'proof text' that baptism is not essential to salvation. My post was to...