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    The lies about gen 6

    You still don’t get it. Poetic language doesn’t mean the King actually went into God’s throne. Heaven is the sky and the idea is, if you read anything I posted, the king, as a bright star which hangs in the heavens and is elevated above all on the earth is the idea. Those who lift themselves up...
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    The lies about gen 6

    Yes, he did. He as King is portrayed as a bright star in the heavens. The same in Revelation at the 6th seal and the 5th Trumpet. Example: Stars, in the Scriptures, are symbols of princes and rulers (see Daniel 8:10; Revelation 8:10-11; Revelation 9:1); and the natural meaning of this symbol...
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    The lies about gen 6

    Youre correct, Satan is just the adversary. I’ve never said otherwise. No contradiction. Thank you for responding too, but I’m currently talking to 2 others on this. So the points arnt confused with their replies, I’ll only be discussing it with them atm.
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    The lies about gen 6

    Because the word “lucifer” is Latin from the Vulgate, that’s why. And it’s important to understand what the word means and how many times it was used. No, that’s not always true. If we take the name Sara, does every Sara in the Bible translate to laughter instead of Sara? No, it doesn’t. One...
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    Restoration

    The new Heavens and new Earth and all that comes; when Christ doesn’t leave heaven until the restoration of all and he returns after the tribulation, at the 7th trumpet to resurrect us when he begins his reign on the last day before the wrath is poured out. Acts 3:21 Whom the heaven must...
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    World Alert: 5 Ways We Are in a Perfect Storm

    Our gathering unto Christ cannot happen till the apostasia comes first AND the man of sin is revealed. Your site is reminiscent of Tim LaHaye scare tactics for Bible believers. Didn’t Christ say, he who endures to the end, the same shall be saved? Not 7 years before the end, but the last day...
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    Will There Be A Future Temple In Jerusalem?

    Will there be a future temple in Jerusalem? Since the question is being asked to anyone and the OP can receive any type of response without the OP saying “you’re wrong”, I’ll post my thought on it; because saying I’m wrong negates the open question. There could be a physical temple built. Do...
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    The Public School HOAX

    Your intent is genuine and I do agree with you, but parents also encounter issues with it. 1. Not every Christian (in title) school is Christian. 2. Some religious schools are the very same that give Christ a bad name for the hate they spew. Religion’s doctrines vary. What do you want your kids...
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    The lies about gen 6

    You've shown that you arnt searching truth. I can easily post a wall of text but you’ve already said it doesn’t matter. I provided you with the every “lucifer” in the Vulgate and you think that the word is a name like Sara is laughter? How do you explain the other verses with the same word? If...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    No such thing. No difference between Jew, Gentile, Greek..all one in Christ = Christian. Saying Hebrew Christian is putting back up the wall that was broken down. We are grafted into the olive tree that already stood, not making 2 trees: 1 Hebrew and 1 formerly Gentile.
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    Daniel's (Little Horn) Paul's (Man Of Sin) John's (The Beast) A Man, Present At The Lord's Return

    Not entirely accurate. ánthrōpos – man, also the generic term for "mankind"; the human race; people, including women and men For it is the number of mankind… Why? K. Wuest, "There are two words in Greek which mean 'man,' anēr, which refers to a male individual of the human reace, and...
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    The lies about gen 6

    @Ronald Nolette Jerome translated the text and formed what’s called the Latin Vulgate. In it, 4 times the word “lucifer” is used. Only the KJV has kept the Latin word “lucifer”, and capitalized it making it appear as a proper name. Let’s compare all passages in the Vulgate, English to Vulgate...
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    The lies about gen 6

    Belshazzar, but some think Nebuchadnezzar. Now do me a favor and look at Isaiah 14:4 One commentator says: How art thou fallen from heaven,.... This is not to be understood of the fall of Satan,… but the words are a continuation of the speech of the dead to the king of Babylon, wondering at it...
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    The lies about gen 6

    You said basically both kings had the spirit of Satan. Well if Christ has the Lucifer, does he have that spirit too? You cannot say one thing without the other. It’s either a name or it’s a characteristic and if it’s not a name, then it isn’t Satan
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    The lies about gen 6

    Obviously you didn’t look at the link. So You're saying Jesus is Satan…ok.
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    The lies about gen 6

    You realize Lucifer is not a proper name right? The word is light bringer. Otherwise by you thinking it’s a personal name are making Jesus the devil; since he is the light bringer. If you have time, please take a look at this link. Perhaps it will explain it in an easier way. Here is a copy of...
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    The lies about gen 6

    Yes it’s clear, it says the King of Babylon. How do you interpret Ezekiel 28? 2Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man Or this...
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    The Final Gentile Global Leader.

    Its appointed all man to die once, then the judgment. But you’re saying man can resurrect by another power (Satan?) instead of God and come back? This breaks with scripture and is heresy. How many heads does a man have? One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the...
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    The lies about gen 6

    The word for lucifer isn’t a proper name. It’s describing the King of Babylon’s authority. You see the King of Babylon and still are focused on the title, light bringer. You’re doing the same thing you accuse others of: Not looking at the entire context and adding to it. Is the context about...
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    The lies about gen 6

    Satan is nowhere in the passage. He’s never identified, spoken of or related to in any of that chapter or its context. The context is our Lord’s judgment on the King of Babylon. 4That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, The following verses speak of what he does...