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As you yourself pointed out........the parable of the talents. Increasing in the measure of what we were given. We HAVE been translated if we have received Christ and the new birth........but it's a question of now walking in it. This is our point of disagreement. It's a paradox. And if we...

Be very careful of twisting/wresting the scriptures. I'm very sad to see how you are so easily led to doubt Paul on the basis of one verse that doesn't even mention him and that is easily explained by other scriptures. Paul is the one who was battling so hard to keep the early church from...

Oh exactly my point. We are to build with what He gives us, what is of His Spirit ( which is LIVING water), not of our flesh and dead ways and things of the world.

The point of my post was that Christ IN us is the hope of glory. One drink of that living water in us will become a well, a fountain. Yes to "investing" according to the parable of the talents, I wasn't saying otherwise.....how else can one drink become a well. We are to increase and grow in...

I don't know how anyone can read Paul and think he is a false apostle. He was affirmed by Peter as well (2Peter 3). Why not rather think that Rev. 2:2 is talking about this: 2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

No. I do not think Christ in us is our ego...He replaces it. Our ego is the old man. And "No longer I who live but Christ who lives in me".....is only manifesting when/if we are walking in the Spirit. Jhn 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but...

Amen. Hard to believe we are so near the end. A little leaven leavens the whole lump......mixture.

Christ in us, the hope of glory. Our new man has been created after the image of Christ. So yes, we are seeking what we already have been given. Not a logical fallacy, but a kind of paradox. Or if you want it more logically, we are seeking to unveil and manifest He who is in us....to walk in...

It's a paradox. By such things we are tested, but it doesn't make it wrong. Grace and liberty are true doctrines, but it is up to us what we do with it....either use it as a license or cloak for sin, or use it to serve the Lord. Like the slave who was set free in the sabbath year but it was...

It's too bad, because what I tried to say in my post, is our point of disagreement. (In spite of all the false assumptions and accusations otherwise.) Well, I tried....glimmer of hope for a minute there. To whom much is given much is required.....but according to you much has not been given...

No that is not what I think. Yes I do deny hating the idea of seeking God. We are to seek Him now.........reaching for what lies ahead. And seeking for immortality...do we have it yet? I suppose yes and no....paradox.

The apostles taught in this vein: from what we have already received.....that we are to seek as it were, what we have already received through Christ, that is, to seek to walk in what we have received. For example, "how can we who have died to sin walk in it any longer". We have died to sin...

You know it occurred to me.....maybe it will help.........if you can see paradox as mentioned in your post here, why can't you see the paradox in how even though we have already been made righteous and holy through the cross, that we also need to seek righteousness and holiness? And even though...

I agree with this post up to part of the last paragraph......we are seeking for what is both present as well as future (from our temporal point of view - because does what is eternal really have a past, present and future?) "Who hopes for what he already has."......and we are "reaching for what...

Oh my yes. Haven't seen any contradictions with any of their teachings. Paul comes under attack a lot these days.

No, that is not how I approach the word of God. That seems to be more your style. I just read it for what it says and look to the Lord to illuminate. That's why I couldn't help but notice your teaching isn't in the same vein as those scrips.

I don't disagree, Jesus said you did not choose me, I chose you.......but then what do we do with election being according to His foreknowledge? I feel like this is one of those things are "hard to be understood" and maybe it's a "which came first, the chicken or the egg" kind of thing...? Who...

Oh no credit to me...if I'm doing well and on a roll, it is all thanks to God, believe me. And if I lay an egg now and then, that is all on me. :)

I believe he may be particularly talking about the early church in Romans there, especially the first Jewish believers.....alluding to them being God's "chosen" people who were called/chosen out of the world. As firstfruits who would then take the gospel to the rest of the...

Your assumption and presumption is that everyone who disagrees with you on anything is because they must be guilty of those things. You don't teach in the same vein as the apostles............unfortunately you have a theology that is not founded on, and found in, their teachings.