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  1. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    No, pre-tribs get the Second Coming wrong the same as you do. They just call the second coming something else, not deny it. The Day of the Lord is the millennium reign which amil do deny is what Peter was telling you all not to be ignorant about. Are you just denying the fact that you are...
  2. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    This parallel passage thing is as much an addition to God's Word as preterism and Jesuit futurism as many allege, as human understanding. But none of you post trib, and post Millennial (Amil) adherents seem to grasp that point. Daniel 9:27 did not take place in the first century, and is not...
  3. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Nonsense. You are making Scripture say what you want it to say. How was Rome no longer an empire in the first century? How were the papal states, the Ten Toes no longer history in the first century? The ten toes were destroyed at the Reformation. John was talking about the image in...
  4. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    You have been asking how long this alleged tribulation is. I am not even talking about tribulation, but the Abomination of Desolation, where only evil is 100% the every day experience, and no Holy Spirit presence whatsoever. You all will go through that as well, no? This time that John...
  5. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Your way or God's Way. There are no cycles in Revelation as that is only human opinion, that started out private, but taught to many people as a reason to deny the actual Word of God publicly.
  6. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    So now it is ok to add your own human opinion to God's Word? You have to go with human understanding foisted upon the text to get it to work out for you. That is not exegesis.
  7. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Satan has had the church deceived with Amillennial eschatology for hundreds of years. That is overcoming the saints without literally killing them, so you are covered. This taking the mark happens after the Second Coming, because you all refuse to see Jesus and the angels on the earth for...
  8. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    So instead of saying Jesus steps onto the Mount of Olives like Acts 1 or Zechariah 14, you want us to accept Jesus comes on a white horse or not to Mount Megiddo, and then rides that horse to the Mount of Olives or walks on foot, if no white horse, and then completes the prophecy that Jesus...
  9. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    The word "final" is not found in that text, but adding it, shows that you manipulate the text to prove your own opinions. Paul expected to survive as well? Was Paul post trib, because he assumed the tribulation happened in the first century? This tribulation is not humans making trouble for...
  10. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Time to God is not the same as time to man. Why are you conflating the two? Nebuchadnezzar experienced his own times. History is the patience of God. No man can live the full length of history. History is the passing of God's time, that humans can enjoy bits and pieces of in their time...
  11. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    The church has already been physically in Paradise. The thief on the cross next to Jesus went to Paradise that day. On Sunday morning Jesus ascended to Paradise, and took the OT redeemed church with Him to Paradise. Stephen went directly to Paradise. He saw Jesus standing to greet him, as...
  12. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    That is not a rapture, but you seem to agree with the "pre-trib" / "post trib" stance of the poster, the Light. I cannot say what he thinks happens pre-trib, but it is what it is. That is also in conjunction with the winepress of God's wrath. As you would see in the next verses: "And...
  13. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Daniel 2 gets us historically to the Reformation. That is when the 5 were fallen. We are 500 years into the mortally wounded 6th head. John was not writing from a first century perspective. He was writing from the perspective the Second Coming already happened, when the 6th head is...
  14. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    So Moses should have given up? Paul should have given up? What is the point you are making? If everyone is doing something, it must be right? Satan was not identified, because he has not been revealed yet. All the amil over the last millennia think Satan is bound. Ask them when they think...
  15. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    What do you do with the point that Satan is King of the entire earth with full authority from God? Revelation 13, 17, and 18. That is the third woe, connected to the 7th Trumpet? Will Satan be in charge, and once every one knows, then 42 months later the Second Coming will happen?
  16. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Jesus is the 7th King of the 7th Kingdom declared at the 7th Trumpet. The 7th Trumpet will either kick off the Millennium, or Satan will be granted a 42 month extension as the 8th kingdom. Then Jesus will return on a white horse to take back the 7th Kingdom. One can assume Jesus and the...
  17. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    This is not necessarily prophetic. This is about punishment that God places on people for disobedience or lack of faith. Some apply that to prophecy. Even the 70 years in captivity was a punishment on the southern kingdom. The 70 weeks may have been a direct relation to the 70 years, or...
  18. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    This all sounds good, but that Day of the Lord is your denial of the Millennial Kingdom on earth. If you deny that Jesus returns as the Prince to come, and sets up an earthly throne, you have replaced Israel with the Church. The time of Jacob's trouble is after the church is gone, and Jesus...
  19. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    That would be the Covenant Relationship with Israel as King during the Millennium reign, Day of the Lord. Romans 11:26-27 and Jeremiah 30 to 33. That would not be with the church, as the church is still in Paradise for another 1,000 years, until the New Jerusalem descends in the NHNE.
  20. Timtofly

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Seems you are taking things too literal, no? Both the Israel of the OT and the church of fhe NT was the wife. So the bride is not either, if you are being literal. That would make the church the wife, as the bride pertains to pre-marriage. I know how you scoff at all the "pre" words...