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That is not true. Ephesians 2:8 doesn't say that grace is a gift either, but grace is most definitely, by definition, a gift. The point is that those who claim that Ephesians says that faith is a gift are wrong. I presented the bases for proclaiming it is wrong.

That is correct. However, when Paul declared that we are saved by faith, not works, it is works of law that he spoke about. Clearly he did not refute Christ's own words that faith is a work. We are saved by grace through faith, and faith is a work according to Jesus.

Clearly. it is you spewing out the manmade mumbo jumbo. You simply refuse to understand and believe God's word.

You are indwelt with the Holy Spirit because you believe the Bible to be the truth. That is the purpose of the written revelation of God, i.e., the Bible. It provides us with the word about Christ, from which comes faith.

That is nothing short of heresy. God has given us His Written Word through the person and work of the Holy Spirit. It is through that Written Word that we can come to believe and obey the gospel (Rom 10). That you would even think for an instant that God is unable to communicate effectively...

It should be obvious, even to you, that the faith spoken of in that passage is not referring to the saving faith of every believer. Rather it is a special miraculous gift from the Holy Spirit given to only a precious few, just as is the case of all the other special miraculous gifts from the...

The "it" in "it is a gift of God" in Ephesians 2:8 does not reference faith. Greek grammar will not permit it. Besides, the word "it" is not even in the Greek. Your KJV has, for Ephesians 2:8, the following: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift...

Again, with the false doctrine of Determinism. Mankind does have free will ability. It was by the sovereign will of God that He instilled mankind with free will. You would deny God the ability to do that. Shame!

Jesus declared faith to be work (John 6:29). If it is work, it cannot be a gift. And faith is a condition for receiving salvation. (Mark 16:16; Rom 1:17; 3:24-25; 4:1-8; 4:22-25; etc.)

It does according to Paul.

John 15:16 was Jesus speaking to His disciples, the twelve. There is no indication that it was spoken of any others.

But not works of law. Obviously, believing is a work. Jesus says so in John 6:26-29. And Jesus says by that work, i.e. by believing, we are saved (Mark 16:16; Rom 3:24; Rom 4:22-25, and so many others),

No, faith is not a gift from God. The statement, "it is a gift from god" in Ephesians 2:5 is not a reference to either faith or grace, but rather to the entire phrase, "by grace you have been saved through faith". That is, it is salvation that is the gift. We know that because of the Greek...

Faith is not a gift. Rom 10:14 How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching? 15 And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How...

Once again, the KJV, which you apparently are referencing, gives a really bad interpretation/translation of Galatians 5:22. Faithfulness, not faith, is a fruit of the Spirit. (ASV) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, (DRB) But the...

Absolutely! Colossians 2:11-13 proves that regeneration comes through faith: 11 In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also...

IThose five points do present a view of Calvinist soteriology, but there is more that is wrong with Calvinism than just those five points. That is simply not true. There are aspects of both that are true and there are aspects of both that are false. I believe that there is more truth in...

Obviously, the do not need a savior until they have sinned. Until they have sinned, they are not lost. Eze 18:20 "The person who sins will die...."

As Logikos said, as babies they were not lost.

The discussion of the Post was originally centered on Calvinism. While I would tend towards Arminianism rather than Calvinism, I think in light of the OP, the discussion should be Calvinism versus non-Calvinism. Why introduce Arminianism into the discussion? I think it would be best if the...