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@St. SteVen I looked around on google and found some interesting explanations. This is from a site I DO NOT use because it's of a denomination I cannot agree with... however, the writer (John Piper) explains Romans 1 much better than I probably do so I'm going to post some of the article. In...

Agreed. And it's of no consequence. No gospel until the NT. Yes. There's salvation in acknowledging the creator. Please don't write back and ask if ACKNOWLEDGING is sufficient because I wrote a whole post on this.

What point does it prove? John 3:16 states that we are to BELIEVE in Jesus. You're a smart guy....what does BELIEVE mean? It means that we're to LEARN and FOLLOW the one in whom we believe. It's not a BELIEVING of the mind,,,but a believing of the heart. So my statement is correct and follows...

Your last sentence is all that's required SS. God is CLEARLY SEEN, BEING UNDERSTOOD BY WHAT IS MADE.... (creation). He is understood by WHAT IS MADE.... even before there was any gospel. What point does it prove? What incompleteness? Romans 1:19....is a complete thought. Everyone will be...

But you asked ARE THEY SAVED? Let's see. They've acknowledged that there's a God. But will they live for the God they now know is present? Let's ask this: HOW is anyone saved? They come to believe in God. Because He revealed Himself in some way. They accept the God that has been revealed to...

OK,,,,and I wish @Ritajanice would read along since she really has refused to discuss Romans 1:19 with me.... To clarify....to me discussing a particular verse means discussing that verse....not just throwing other verses at me that have no meaning to the discussion. (I'm not saying YOU do...

Don't be grieved SS. @Ritajanice and I are OK. We have a little difficulty communicating and it gets on our nerves at times. But no problem.

You have a very sly way of insulting persons. I DO happen to be able to pick up on it. I don't post opinion.... I post scripture... something YOU do not care to do. Well, actually at times you DO post scripture... but it makes no sense....to what is being discussed at the time. :balloons:

No comment. I tag everyone I mention....not saying I don't maybe forget a time or two... BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE A HABIT to speak behind someone's back.

These are sad comments SS. My sister in law refuses to go to any church anymore and she was very involved with her church. I was in a Nazarene church many years ago and I had a little debate with the pastor because he insisted that if we commit a sin, we lose our salvation. Now, I'm not...

Also, I would ask that you tag me in when speaking about me. I'm sure there's a rule about this... and it's just common courtesy. Thanks.

What a silly thing to say RJ. My goodness but the Holy Spirit must be a really bad teacher if His spirit resonates differently with each Christian. And,,,,since you don't care to discuss Romans 1:19-20,,,,I suggest you make no comment regarding it when mentioning ME.... who is very willing to...

Wow. That thing looks nasty. Problem is that some mushrooms that are poisonous are very pretty to look at. If you go out at 3AM you're a serious mushroomer....don't know anybody that does this. Yes. We call them mushroomers...fungolai. While we're on the subject,,,what do you think of this...

Welcome to the club. This is what we probably all, or at least the vast majority, must accept.

Romans 1:19-20 is a "standard apologetic"?? It's one of the most important verses in the entire NT. YOU brought up the problem of what happens to persons that have never heard the gospel and how it represents a problem to you. I gave you a good verse and you just brush it off because it doesn't...

IF you're confident in the Word of God... Why won't you go through Romans 1:19-20 with me? This is what you're inferring. You're inferring that I don't have the spirit of God in my heart and thus do not understand His word. NO RJ We are NOT at different levels of understanding. YOU are at a...

Yes. Fear of the truth. Guess YOU are the only one with the spirit of God in your heart. Everyone that does not agree with you must surely be missing the spirit of God in their heart. Yeah.... So we run from the truth instead of facing it. Which is what you're doing right now.

RJ If you want to learn Christianity the way Jesus meant it to be... then you're going to have to face the New Testament Scriptures and believe THOSE instead of some persons that are teaching you Calvinism. Let's stick to the scriptures. The NT states that we are to be ready to give an answer...

I have to pass a test to be able to speak to you? WHY do you not speak to Romans 1? I'll tell you why.... Because if you do,,,it'll lead you down the correct path and you're afraid of the correct path. WHY were some in Romans 1 lost? Why was the wrath of God on them?

Of course. God cannot join Himself to sin. A person must REPENT first....then he is forgiven of sin. Repentance, Faith and Belief come BEFORE salvation.... It's so plain in Ephesians 2:8-9 but, as you've stated many times, some are totally blind to plain scripture. Calvinism teaches that a...