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And if your timeline and doctrine is wrong...how would you like one to respond--how should any Christian responded to error in doctrine? Are you beyond reproach, beyond correction?

Yours truly teaching Jonathan Cain of JOURNEY (songwriter of Don't Stop Believin') how to Scuba dive off Maui -- and concert tickets and backstage passes after. Great times!

That is because I used your words to answer you in your own terms. So, yes, it would appear to make little sense. How is it that you who boast of scriptural knowledge do not know that the two witnesses "have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy?" Yes, and...

The events of this world in order of history, listed in an attempt to understand things not of this world where time does not exist.

You don't understand, and thus reject. So shall it be written of you.

You have all the information. Why then from behind the veil, do you hinder the latter rain by which I have spoken to you?

Yes, from God, speaking plainly, I have summarized it.

She "Liked" my answer--which is what it was. You on the other hand have come in like a GRINCH showing your dark heart. :(

That is all very scholarly of you--good study, I'm sure! But it is God who decides when and where previous scripture is applicable and fulfilled. I was not loosely name-dropping out of context, but proclaiming the truth from God.

Oh, now I see the problem-- You're looking in the wrong place, not considering the whole word of God! The entire word of God is connected to every part.

Indeed, calm is good and called for--and according to forum rules. However, as long as the truth from God is not fully known...iron sharpens iron, for that two-edged sword of Christ is at hand.

I was, but okay sure: I was referring to the fact that false teachers were foretold by Peter and have entered into the church spreading destructive doctrines, and also Paul saying that a "lie" would be believed causing "strong delusion" and "great apostacy." And yet, Jesus had promised that the...

Haha...that's a double-edged sword! On one hand, the providence of God placed His word in their hands...so yes, in some respects we are to trust. Well, in God rather, and perhaps not so much in the early church fathers. On the other hand, Jesus found "somewhat against" 5 out of the 7 early...

I get that. But it is important to remember that the words are spirit, purposely confused by God, and as much as foolishness if simply looked at from a literary standpoint.

I wouldn't expect to see any prophets of old reappearing in this world. But the scope of the prophecy is even bigger anyway. His witnesses have been since Adam, and continue even to the end.

On the contrary, I have not been vague, but have cut to the chase in truth. But, no, Revelation 11 is not a lie, only that which has been taught of it for the past 2,000 years.

That is all good, but the time has come for gathering. Just as the word has unfolded "here a little, there a little" over many generations, it is time for refolding. The days of great and lengthy dissertations were not to continue forever. Now is the time to say more by saying less--He must...

There are many speculative explanations regarding the seven churches of Revelation. However, it is all much simpler than most assume. Most want to make it personal, or regional, or by dates or times. But the word "church" is not defined in that way. It is defined rather, as simply the Lords...

There is another point of revelation in the Genesis 2:17 verse, saying "in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die." That point of revelation is made by God equating a day with ones entire lifetime--just as we ourselves often do referring to, say, "back in our grandfathers day", but...

That is all part and parcel of the foretold "lie" propagated by false teachers entering into the church causing strong delusion and great apostacy for a time. That time has passed, although many still believe the "lie." But I wasn't asking.