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Unfortunately supporting Israel has been the teaching of many Christian leaders and churches. What should have been taught instead, is honor for Israel's part leading up to the coming of Christ, and also forgiveness, for Christ also forgave them even while hanging on the cross. Israel since...

I don't need to entertain such a thing. But the point is: "Which is greater?" and which is to be considered true, the spiritual or man's literary understanding of God's word?

Indeed, the scriptures speak of both. And you are correct to say He created the elements. But what are the elements but light and energy (the making of all matter in the universe) created and given form where there was none? It is written, that mankind is made of the same elements as the...

The "clear evidence" is: "The words that I speak to you are spirit" (John 6:63). Meaning that what is made manifest, like man, is image--meaning all the world, and every word from God. This is a fundamental truth regarding what is seen compared with what is unseen. To the contrary, what is...

I don't dabble in what I "believe", only what I know from God. As for "in all of the church periods", as I said, all/10 means all.

Reconciling I can help with. But you have piled on too much. I can see how that would make things confusing. Perhaps you could list just two passages at a time, and be more concise?

Jesus spoke of the commencement of the end of the flesh and the beginning of the Spirit. Thus, the coming of the kingdom of God, whom is spirit. This is where the passage, in "Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive (1 Corinthians 15:22) and "so as to create in Himself one new...

I gave you the meaning. It means: All.

It is a word in parable. By the image of God cast in mankind--ten toes below, and ten fingers above--ten means "all"...as in all the days of your life.

Good. Yet those too must be spiritually discerned, for they speak of things only seen in the spirit--seen by all--but each one in his own order.

I understand your being defensive, but the best of scholars--even the Pharisees, and for that matter Satan, knew and quote scripture. To which the only answer is also written, showing the scriptures to be given in parables as spirit: They must be spiritually discerned--not worldly.

That is a fair summary. Unfortunately, it is too worldly. The words are spirit and only paint a picture, not of what is or will be worldly, but in heaven. Even the worldly events are and are to be only imagery--all in His image. What does that mean? The primary passage regards the marriage...

The passage is to the anointed, saying that some will have tribulation all of their life, but with assurance that God has not forsaken them, but will make good on his promise of eternal life.

Thanks for explaining, but it is as I expected: But there is no "first physical resurrection." Which is not in contradiction to the verses that you posted, but in accord, as born again of a completely different body. As the word for "renew" is also defined simply, as "new." Which I do not say...

You are going in circles to defend your Original Post point that some Christians, "Basically they believed the grace of God was like a license to sin." Which almost no one actually believes. The issue here, though you seem to insist upon beating around the bush, is that apparently you do not...

Semantic again. The greater biblical theme shows the flesh being against the spirit. It would seem that you are denying this. Why are you defending the "flesh" which is born of this world and condemned?

Semantics. But it would appear that you are attempting to make a case for glorified flesh...which is not biblical. The spirit returns to God who gave it, and the flesh returns to the dust and is destroyed with the elements of this world.

Indeed God created mankind. But after the fall the human race born of and following Adam and Eve, are, as it is written: of the their father the devil. Thus, regarding the Original Post, those coming into Christ (Christians) were before children of the devil.