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Rev 15 starts with wrath poured out but is in no way the second coming at the end of the 7yr gt. Explain all this; Rev16 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of...

Sad your bad attitude. So hateful I feel for you.

It is like you defend the notion of harvest as gibberish.

No SPECIFICALLY NUMBERED in TWO SEPARATE methods so as to debunk any attempt to merge them into something other than what is vividly depicted as a totally separate group. Yes as we see in romans 11. Time of Gentiles completed, and God now deals with the Jews in a separate harvest. Without the...

The 144,000 mentioned in Revelation several times ,are specifically declared first fruits. First fruits is the first part of the Harvest. it is a small section of the main Harvest, and is gathered first. ( and of course the 144k Jews are gathered first rev 14 :1-4), ahead of the main Jewish...

This is wrong on several fronts. 1) Rev 14 is not the white horse coming. Impossible. Totally different. 2) it is the Jewish harvest. 144k firstfruit JEWS. This is the regrafting of romans 11. At that point Jesus is depicted sitting on a cloud holding a sickle in Revelation and verse 14 and he...

Because you have no understanding of the Jewish people being brought back and being grafted back in and gathered unto God vividlyillustrated in rom 9,10 and 11. The entirety of the tribulation Is Jacob's trouble ,which is directed directly to the Jewish people that God will regather. his...

Any verses I refer to are immediately cast down and stomped, illustrating your heart and disrespect for God's word.

Lol. Just keep thinking harvest can not possibly be depicted in the Bible through harvest. Just keep telling yourself that. Firstfruits Don't investigate any of that dimension. Wow...even harvest needs modifying in your deal. What a straight Jacket confine the Bible is to you guys. No...

We all see the obvious. Your unpacking of the " before the flood gathering", has the world destroyed at the coming. The Bible has the army of the ac destroyed at the white horse coming. There is no commerce or normal life at the white horse coming. So your deal is way way off. Are you totally...

Is this rapture you are referring to, on white horses?

Wow. You serious??? What do you think " firstfruits " is referring to??? Jesus with a sickle??? Angels telling Jesus " thrust in your sickle and reap" Gather the wheat into the barn?????? Parable of the sower???? Tares gathered and burned????

Normal living. Noah gathered DURING NORMAL LIVING. But I know that severely hurts your deal.

The Bible says the dead in christ rise first. You saying the Bible is wrong?

Your model, if it is postrib rapture, has ZERO COMMERCE for believers, and NO NORMAL LIFE. So keep refraiming that item. That is the only way to wiggle out of what is written. Either change it or omit it. It does SEVERE HARM to your deal...and anyone honestly in study of the word would not do...

It was Jesus that SAID normal life. Take it up with him as it is the Bible I am leading you to go against.

Ahem...." firstfruits " What do you think that word refers to?

@The Light Are you saying 1 thes 4 has two separate events? .... and the dead and " us alive" has a major time lapse between the dead gathered and those ones alive? Two separate comings? If so....I totally disagree

Not with Noah Not with Lot.