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  1. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Pretty hard to wiggle out of the facts. Noah gathered preflood/ pretrib. Normal life and commerce at that gathering. Noah RETURNS to earth FROM THE HEAVENS. Just omit it. ...as you continue to do. Are you actually aware that you need Noah and Lot removed post trib/ post judgement?? The Noah...
  2. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Mat 24:38 " before the flood" ..watch and be ready. Acts 1 " ...this same Jesus shall return in like manner". ( uh that would be only fitting pretrib rapture) Rev 3 : 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all...
  3. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    "..He shall send his angels..." (while he stays where he is at) "..and THEY SHALL GATHER..." NOT AT ALL THE RAPTURE. Eschatology centers on the bride and the bridegroom. The groom Gathering the bride. That is what the Rapture is. It's not a Doctrine about the tribulation . it's not what is the...
  4. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    In the amil shreader along with half the bible
  5. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Again...no verses as usual
  6. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    You just quoted Jesus as saying after the tribulation that angels will gather the elect from heaven. That is not Jesus Gathering believers from Earth. So do you believe the words of Jesus that after the tribulation the church already in heaven is gathered to get onto the White Horses by the...
  7. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    In amil land there are no commas or periods. The entire end times is a blur. The entire deal is a FF button,fast tracking EVERY EVENT to the GWT Judgment. It all happens at once. Nobody is going to fall for ANY of that friend. That is the emptiest eschatology wagon ever to hit the trail. You...
  8. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Prewrath postrib can figure it to within a month or so. Postwrath can do the same. Both are obviously false doctrine on several fronts. At this late hour, with recent revelation of the significance of Rev 14, and Jesus actually placing his pretrib coming in mat 24, it is strange that anyone...
  9. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Your last 2 posts have zero scripture. Sums up your deal huh?
  10. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Postrib doctrine has the return " figured out" down to a month or so. That alone tells you and all postribbers an imminent coming is nothing to promote or pay any attention to. . It would be ridiculous for any postribber to get ready. . They think it is raw faith and canned goods that will save...
  11. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Amil is about the worst attempt at end times I have ever seen. Miles and miles apart from what I have gleaned from over 40 years in God's word. In the pre and post debate I am seeing a huge increase in posrtrib rapture teachers on YouTube. I watch most of them. One in particular centers...
  12. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Nope. The unbelievers in the satanic army are killed. Not all unbelievers on the planet. Oh, wait, I get it, since you are pushing amil, you need the GWTjudgement to be placed at the second coming,Correct? THAT IS WHY YOU NEED THE ENTIRE PLANET EXTERMINATED OF UNBELIEVING HUMANS at his...
  13. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Not only he, but you erroneously believe the same thing. One taken, one left. Both of you say they are unbelievers that are left. ( half the earth's population saved, half unsaved.) SMH
  14. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    All take the mark that are not written in the book of life. Stop misrepresenting the Bible.
  15. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Show me where one taken and one left is not in the Bible.( ahem..mat 24) You made the claim it is not. I showed it to you. Now you are just refuting the word of God. Not wise my friend. But I am prepared to make you go against it anytime. As you just did.
  16. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Only pretrib rapture fits.
  17. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    QUOTE; "Right. Once Jesus comes and destroys His enemies no one will die anymore after that" Remember, you are saying half the planet population is destroyed. But it gets worse, because you are saying , at that point, Jesus kills all the population. ( As you assured us that the ones left behind...
  18. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Of course those left behind are killed. That group CAN NOT be unsaved. It can ONLY BE BELIEVERS, because half OF A GROUP are taken / half OF THAT GROUP left behind. How absurd to try and make that group the world's population???? It can NEVER FIT. And yet you keep on believing half the world is...
  19. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Nope. You made up pre wrath / postrib rapture. There is zero commerce for any believer postrib/ prewrath. Some vast stretching is needed for that erroneous belief. The fact all are killed refusing the mark makes your entire deal impossible. Not most. Nor some. The Bible says ALL. ALL DIE...