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Got caught with your hand in the cookie jar and now trying to plead innocent or rather sarcasm..... Shows your true character.

Such Hypocrisy.... Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?(Matthew 7:4)

No one is attacking anyone here. So please get over it.... we are having a civil discussion/ Debate, when You debate you counter the arguments presented to others. Amongst those counter points is questioning the assumptions the other holds. Assumptions and worldview determine each and everyone...

Have you ever debated an atheist with ingrained assumptions? That is very similar to what I am talking about with this doctrine of saints being all believers. You have to dig to the root of these assumptions for the atheist to even begin to see that there is another way to see things that is...

A Baseball team is made up of diverse players doing different things on the field, yet they are united in purpose. This is not a Caste system but just how the Body is constructed. Read 1 Corinthians 12 again.

Every protestant sect, with the exception of the church of England teaches that all believers are saints. that is a fact. Again, I will not comment on this because it is a rude insult from you, and shows your arrogance. Most people do not think for themselves, and this again is a fact, they...

I Understand how the Greek works, You assume I do not. If the intent was to use "even" then the translators would have done so, but they did not, How come?

Did You learn everything there is to Know about Faith and the Gospel overnight? Did You learn temperance overnight? Did you learn to be patient overnight and learn to wait upon the LORD? When You were first saved di you live Godly life, or were you still struggling with sin? Did You immediately...

It is simply a separation of saints and the faithful. If Paul wanted to say the saints and the faithful are one in the same, he would have written "to the faithful saints at Ephesus" He did not, and he put the conjunction "Kai" between them. He does this elsewhere as well....To the saints and...

Christians are not automatons who believe the same things you do exactly. We each walk the same path to sainthood, but none of us take the same steps. I Have given you Ample scriptural proof for this position of mine, including a rather long winded post on this topic. You just do not see it or...

It is an observation made over my Life and walk with Christ. I Have seen drug addicts and alcoholics saved and changed dramatically, where as those in the church are changed when they make a decision to fully submit as an adult.... Perhaps the latter were saved as children under the coercion of...

You Probably are not familiar with this whole debate, I suggest you do some research yourself. Let the Spirit guide you and teach you. True, the Hyper grace people do not teach this. What i tend to think is that it depends on when you were saved.... For example, If you were saved as a child...

Simple common sense.... "The candy I bought is for you and your sister" You are not your sister, nor is she you. (Verse 1) "You can both eat the candy which i bought for you." (verse 2) We are all on the same road to sainthood, but in each generation and church, only a few are selected to make...

Every church and every believer has this in their belief system they just have different words for it. Whether it is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, the second move of Grace, Total surrender, Making Jesus LORD, Baptismal regeneration, Entering into fullness, They all have their scriptures for...

One of the few things I agree with the Catholics on, Though i do not take it to the point of veneration of the saints.... "for the perfecting of the saints" (Ephesians 4:12) The church consists of the faithful and the saints, the saints are chosen by God, Not by merit, and are taken to the...

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. (John 18:36) Your still fighting for the kingdom of heaven and not the kingdom of God. Its the same...

I Like You am prewrath, mid trib. I see the day of our redemption/Rapture as being the day of Christ, what follows is the time of Jacob's trouble. That being said, I think shortly before the Great tribulation the church age ends, and the church of the saints, the overcomers reaches the fulness...

At Baptism we Put on Christ Jesus (Galatians 3:27), we do not put on the church. In all the time I have commented with you, you seem to be more worried about defending an earthly construct and kingdom more than you are about defending Christ Jesus and His Kingdom which is not of this world...

I think the consummation of his redemptive work will come shortly before the resurrection in the saints with the latter rain and outpouring of the Spirit.

When we are saved, we receive the earnest of the Spirit, When we are Baptized, the fulness, over a life of being sanctified. Something changes in you when you are baptized.... I do not know if I have words to explain it. Some denominations have a concept know as total surrender which acts...