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    Making Disciples

    Amen. Salvation by works is a Catholic belief...it's nominalism. Even the Jews, God's chosen under the Law, did not obtain what they were seeking for (except for a remnant) because they sought it not by faith, but by trying to establish their own righteousness. Unfortunately what Epi is...
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    Making Disciples

    According to scripture...... FAITH has a huge bearing on salvation Epi, not just what we do. Justified by faith and the works that proceed from faith........not by works alone without faith.
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    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    His kingdom comes into the hearts of His people who believe on Him. Jesus said His kingdom comes not with our careful observation but is within/among His people. His will being done on earth as it is in heaven is within our earthly vessels of clay of those who believe and belong to Him.
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    Making Disciples

    Amen! Thanks for that brother. Looks like those two little words are often used interchangeably if I'm understanding right. And John 3:16 also says God so loved THE WORLD that He gave His only Son that WHOSOEVER WOULD BELIEVE ON HIM would never perish but have eternal life. Clearly Jesus was...
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    Making Disciples

    Being born of the Spirit is a work of the Spirit, not a work of man. "Just say a little prayer" with hands laid on and thus assuming someone is saved and born again that way is no different than the "sacraments" that the non-born again Catholics do that they believe saves them. Who Epi calls...
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    Making Disciples

    Read the context of that in John 3....He is referring to the whole world not just unbelieving Jews. And which agrees with where it says elsewhere that the whole world lies under the wrath of God.
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    Making Disciples

    It is an unspeakable gift. And you know, it takes humility to acknowledge one's need of a Saviour and accept His charity. Pride is on the part of those who think their own righteousness is enough and don't need His gift.
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    Making Disciples

    Yes I am seeing people in different places. The bible tells us that the unbelieving are under condemnation and wrath already. That is the place they are at. And there is only one way for them to be lifted out/saved from that place. The rest of what you said here is man's reasoning which we...
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    Making Disciples

    He has not justified our flesh. Flesh cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. What He has done that justifies us is given us a new man/nature, one that is spiritual, of HIS Spirit, and is righteous.....not of the flesh.
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    Making Disciples

    Where is the rest of my sentence? See you are not being honest here in twisting my words and you do this a lot. That's not good fruit either. You think it's clever but God sees it as dishonest scales. If you have the Spirit that would bother your conscience, unless you are deceived. God's...
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    Making Disciples

    Think the lesson in that passage is that they were trying to establish their own righteousness.
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    Is the "free gift" of salvation really free? - Honestly?

    Amen...it seems like the church is in retreat and that's why it has lost so much ground in the west. Completely distracted by politics and trying to preserve a "way of life". It makes me think of where Jesus said if we try to save our life we will lose it.
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    Making Disciples

    And what kind of fruit is this?
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    Making Disciples

    On the contrary, it's from leaning on man's own humanistic and man-centred understanding that has many folks believing people can be saved and receive eternal life apart from Christ. The scriptures are clear on how man may be saved, and they teach outright that one's own righteousness cannot...
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    Making Disciples

    God is and always has been looking for FAITH, no? And the particular lessons we are to learn from the bad attitude of many of Israel's leaders at the time is that we are to love the lost (as we all once were ourselves), not judge and look down on them, and that the gospel of Messiah Christ and...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Dont' give up seeking healing too brother! He is the Lord our Healer. One day when that cross has done it's job perhaps. I have something I've been praying for healing/deliverance from for years as well.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Think that's a little harsh sister. Johann is cessationist, at least to some extent, so that has a bearing on things. But it doesnt' mean he is unsaved. I have wondered if we follow the same pattern as the disciples, but our starting point is definitely higher than unbelieving Jews under the...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Ah...ok, that I agree with. Walking in the Spirit ABOVE our carnal nature. As some would say, walking separated from it. Dividing between soul and spirit.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Johann and everyone, I'm just having trouble grappling with things right now and have gone into silent mode....don't feel like talking and don't know what to say anyhow. Feeling hormonal too and maybe my difficulty right now is just due to aging, ugh....some days are better or worse than others...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    May I ask, have you ever come across someone who no longer "goes out" of it?