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  1. St. SteVen

    Can a believer be a part of the Body of Christ without being water baptized?

    I agree, but that is not the topic question. (see below) Recently these scriptures below were posted as defense of salvation through baptism. And in Acts chapter 2:38 Peter famously says: "Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness...
  2. St. SteVen

    Can a believer be a part of the Body of Christ without being water baptized?

    For the purposes of this topic the Body of Christ is the whole body of believers. Or could be viewed as those who belong to a church, a subset of the whole Body of Christ. The topic also points at the importance, or unimportance, of water baptism as an entry point into a local church body, or...
  3. St. SteVen

    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    That's actually a good example of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't need to be born again. (the regeneration of our spirit) What He did need was power from on high to perform the acts that Father God was leading Him into. Not an indwelling. The Spirit of God was upon Him. At...
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    Sarah Adams - Know thine Enemy

    IMMEDIATE RELEASE US Navy Capt. (SEAL) Bradley Geary | CASE DISMISSED [
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    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    St. SteVen said: Here's one of my topics on the subject, if that helps. The topic is intended to challenge the belief that speaking in tongues is the ONLY evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit...
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    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Excellent. Thanks for the update. May God grant you peace and well-being as you continue. [
  7. St. SteVen

    Eternal Torment Or Annihilation? What Happens To The Wicked

    I suppose you are claiming that is a reference to the Ten Commandments? The Apostle Paul had a few things to say about that. Assuming the TCs were engraved in letters on stone. The TCs were the transitory ministry of condemnation and death that has no glory now. The letter kills; the Spirit...
  8. St. SteVen

    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    St. SteVen said: Or at least not as a subsequent experience after the indwelling which comes when we believe? You said that you speak in tongues. That is evidence of Holy Spirit baptism. Here's one of my topics on the subject, if that helps. Or, you may prefer to be...
  9. St. SteVen

    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    St. SteVen said: All this to say that you don't believe in the Baptism with the Spirit? I was responding to Karl Peters, not you. Do you have good news about your health condition? [
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    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    St. SteVen said: The Baptism with the Holy Spirit is not in conflict with being born again. Agree. St. SteVen said: It's not one or the other, it's both. Right. Born again comes first. (usually) As I have said already. The Baptism with the Holy...
  11. St. SteVen

    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    All this to say that you don't believe in the Baptism with the Spirit? Or at least not as a subsequent experience after the indwelling which comes when we believe? What were John the Baptist and Jesus talking about when they made reference to the Baptism with the Holy Spirit? All four Gospels...
  12. St. SteVen

    Can a believer be a part of the Body of Christ without being water baptized?

    Discussion questions: - What is it that makes a believer a part of the Body of Christ? - Can a believer be a part of the Body of Christ without being baptized? - Is there another way to became a part of the Body of Christ? - Can a believer be saved yet be outside the Body of Christ? - Can...
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    How many baptisms are there? Just one

    That was John's baptism. Acts 19:1-7 NIV While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples 2 and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when[a] you believed?” They answered, “No, we have not even heard that...
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    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    The whole point of the topic was that the writers said that the water baptized Samaritan believers did NOT receive the Holy Spirit. The question is, what did that mean? We both know that they had the indwelling because they were believers. So what were they missing? The Apostles were called to...
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Let's be honest. No one does everything he says. How are you doing on this list? Matthew 10:8 NIV Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy,[a] drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give. [
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    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    The Baptism with the Holy Spirit is not in conflict with being born again. It's not one or the other, it's both. [
  17. St. SteVen

    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Interesting that the Baptism with the Holy Spirit is mentioned in all four Gospels and in Acts. Matthew 3:11 “I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    That saw cuts both ways. I have resisted using it but here you go... What would be the point of denying Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh if He wasn't God? 2 John 1:7 NIV I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the...
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    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    That's a good question. They were formative times. I think they took this problem to the top. (the Apostles) I don't think laying on of hands was required previously. And not always afterward. The Holy Spirit can be rather unpredictable in this regard. - At Pentecost it seemed to come...