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A ransom paid to Whom?

I'd like to start a fundraiser. Who here will contribute to paying @BOL to go a full day without using a bold, underlined or capitalized word?

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And I never claimed that you did. (Is English your first language?) Show me the verses you think implicitly support MPV, so we can discuss. I DO NOT demand Scriptural support (although I welcome it, whether explicit or implicit). And I do not discount Sacred Tradition -- indeed, that is...

I agree. But by the same token, we ought not use the word "justice" with its human connotations and meaning to describe what you rightly point out we cannot understand.

We can't be sure of this. We can't be sure of this either.

If anyone can show me explicit Scriptural proof of MPV, I welcome it. I don't "demand" it. (In fact, I doubt it exists. And now I see that you do too.) I have said, and repeat for you now, My thesis is, and has always been, that Scripture is equivocal on the subject. Those who point to...

God punishes every single sin, but not every single sinner. That's the distinction you are missing. WE weren't punished for our sins. CHRIST was punished for our sins. And that is not "justice" as the word is commonly understood by humans. And I don 't accuse God of being a corrupt judge...

But salvation in Christ for believers is the antithesis of that. Ergo, God's failure to punish sinners (those who believe in Christ) means He NEED NOT punish sinners. So let's try again. Why do you say He MUST punish sinners as a manifestation of His justice? (As unjust as it is NOT to...

I think, rather, that most of "those who don't believe in Jesus" don't think they need to BE saved. Conversely, some who DO believe in Jesus nevertheless "rely on their own willpower and wisdom to keep themselves saved." (Of course, they don't share your view of what "believing" in Jesus entails.)

I will stipulate that Jesus had no half-siblings. We can agree on that. But that fact doesn't make Mary a perpetual virgin. And I am not looking for an argument "against the PVM." I am looking for an argument FOR the PVM. I can't find one in Scripture, although that's not the sole place we...

It doesn't, F2F. Not punishing the guilty is not justice, much less "perfect" justice. And punishing an innocent man in lieu of guilty men is not justice, much less "perfect" justice. Both of these pillars of justice toppled at Calvary. Job 34:11 is the first pillar of justice. The essence...

Is that because my notion of justice differs from His?

Yes.

That doesn't change the calculus at all. Even if the innocent man volunteers to be punished in the guilty man's stead, it is unjust to accept the offer. The idea that a just God would ever punish A for B’s sin―whether or not A volunteered for the substitution―is a troubling one. A bloodthirsty...

Long time.

Keep your eye on the ball, please. We aren't talking about Adam's guilt, we are taking about Jesus's lack of guilt. Jesus, the innocent, got punished in lieu of mankind, the guilty. I ask again: How is that "justice."

Care to explain how it is "God's perfect justice" to punish the innocent in lieu of the guilty? I don't know anyone who would call that "justice." I can think of lots of other names for it. But not "justice."

I sincerely doubt this. I might be more inclined to agree if you had said "Most people do not believe God desires his name to be spoken." But I digress. Why do you think "most people" feel the way you say they feel about God's name?

We are wandering on the road to Mecca here. My thesis is that Scripture is equivocal on Mary's perpetual virginity. In several posts @Behold has asserted that Scripture disproves it. I think he's wrong. In several posts you have asserted that Scripture proves it. I think you're wrong. When...