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  1. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    It is a living spiritual rebirth.
  2. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    Nothing there says anything about Jacob being predestined to heaven or Esau and Pharoah being predestined to hell. That entire passage is speaking about how God has used them in their lives, not where they ended up going in their next life. In fact verse 12, "The elder shall serve the...
  3. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    Yes I agree, water baptism is a NT doctrine only. But then so is regeneration. Regeneration is a NT doctrine only. And both are then only for those who are old enough to make a full heart commitment to the religion of Jesus Christ. However that changes nothing of what I said.
  4. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    I certainly do not understand you. I don't know how anyone could be so confused about so much. I am curious. You don't have to answer if you don't want to. But do you associate with any assembly, congregation or church on a regular basis? Do you study God's word with anyone else? Does anyone...
  5. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    It is what you posted.
  6. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    No, Paul is speaking to the believers in Rome: Rom 1:7 To all those in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. It is speaking about unbelievers. Paul is saying that they can know about God: Rom 1:19 For what...
  7. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    You don't even understand yourself. You posted the following. 1 In the past you were spiritually dead because of your disobedience and sins. That specifies the reason you were spiritually dead. You were spiritually dead, not because God gave you a dead spirit, not because you were...
  8. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. Rom 1:19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.
  9. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    Our spirits come from God (Eccl 12:7; Zech 12:1). We were born of the Spirit from birth (or as I believe at conception). We were not born spiritually dead. The very idea that God would form in us a spirit dead at the outset is absolutely hateful of God. We become dead in trespasses and sins...
  10. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    And yet you still have not shown us even one example where Jesus had or needed to have faith. i.e., to believe in God. I think I have mentioned before that in the 11th chapter of Hebrews, called the Bible's faith chapter, we have example after example of the results of the faith of many of the...
  11. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    Do you know the word euphemism?
  12. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    What is the "again" part? Again means that there was a birth before, and now there must be another birth, i.e., born again. So what was the first born of the Spirit if there is to be a birth of the Spirit again?
  13. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    First, the "blood" of Jesus is a euphemism for his death. If if was just blood, there would have been much easier ways to get some of Jesus blood without killing him on a cross after severe beatings. Second, I agree, the water itself does nothing about sin. However, the moment of baptism is...
  14. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    Yes, the first time for everyone who has ever been born when God formed the spirit in him. The second time [born again] for those who believed in God.
  15. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    Red, you know I love you as a brother in Christ, but now you are just being funny. John the Baptist taught that water baptism was for the forgiveness of sins. And so did Peter, Paul and all the rest of the apostles who spoke of it. You deny that and probably will to you last dying breath. You...
  16. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    Now why wouldn't I be surprised to find that you think the KJV is the Authoritative Bible. It isn't of course because it contains errors just as all the others do.
  17. J

    Why did Jesus have to suffer and die?

    And Just how do you think He has done or is doing that?
  18. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    I don't know you or anything about you. If you are any part of an organizational decision, I want no part of the organization.
  19. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    And who decides what is error. You sound a little like the Main Stream Media who are always anxious to identify what they do not like as false.
  20. J

    CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

    Your words. I just wanted to know which versions you considered as authoritative.