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  1. Mjh29

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    Im sorry... I gave my interpretation of these verses, but are you honestly saying that Jesus paid the price for sin, but it is up to us to make this payment valid? Are you honestly saying that we as fallen sinners have more power in their salvation than JESUS HIMSELF? That Christ is up in Heaven...
  2. Mjh29

    Baptism ?

    I agree. My only point was that the water in itself has no regenerative power. That is all the Holy Spirits doing. Baptism is symbolic of the work of the Holy Spirit in a believer's life. I do agree that we should follow Christ's teachings, but none of us will ever do it perfectly. Now, if there...
  3. Mjh29

    Baptism ?

    Mary, Firstly, I would just like to sat that it is truly pleasurable to sit down and have a civilized conversation with a fellow believer, regardless of our differences in views. Secondly, I would like to say that I agree completely with what you said. Yes, a proper baptism does require water...
  4. Mjh29

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    Um, about the John 3:16 thing.... I would think that someone who has spent so much time trying to beat others into submission using the Greek texts would take a little bit of time to do the same for this one. the whosoever...in the Greek... is "All that." And doesn't everyone believe that God...
  5. Mjh29

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    Exactly. They were not and indeed COULD NOT be willing. They do the will of "Their father, the Devil" [Jhn 8:44]. Our wills are enslaved to sin. We cannot make any choice that is not in some way tainted by our natures, as all of our thoughts are "only evil continually" [Gen. 6:5] So no, this is...
  6. Mjh29

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    Yeah.... no.... No we don't. Your Will, My will. They are in no way free. We have Free AGENCY... but not free will.
  7. Christian Apologetics by Van Til -- Ch. 1.1

    Christian Apologetics by Van Til -- Ch. 1.1

    OVERVIEW This chapter is considerably long, so I decided to cut it into pieces and deal with it little bits at a time. The particular portion of the chapter I will be talking about here is mainly about the philosophy behind Christian ethics. There is such a thing a ethically right and wrong, and...
  8. Mjh29

    Baptism ?

    Hi Mary, pleased to be here. Before I begin, I would first like to note the irony in the fact that the only one aho has NOT joined in the bashing... is the "mean, stiff nosed" Calvinist. Anyways, I believe that baptism by water is a VERY important sign in a believer's life. I believe that when...
  9. Mjh29

    Baptism ?

    Actually, Jesus did this for much the same reason he spoke in parables. Not because the water actually DOES anything, rather; that He wanted to get His point across in a visual way. The water that was used was and is a visual representation of the pouring out of the Spirit, it is a picture of...
  10. Christian Apologetics by Van Til -- Introduction

    Christian Apologetics by Van Til -- Introduction

    I know it has been a while, but with finishing school, I have had minimal time to actually sit down and read. But, here I am, back to take another crack at another book. This will be a bit different than my first book, as I will go more in-depth, due to the fact that the previous book was mostly...
  11. Mjh29

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    Here is the problem, though. In Romans 9, Paul explains how God chooses Sinners because of His purpose, not because of any forseen good 7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the...
  12. Mjh29

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    A Um..... *coughs*... Hi. So, First of all, I would like to sat that, contrary to popular belief, not all Calvinists look down on other people. If anything, calling all Calvinists stuck up and stiff nosed is looking down on them wouldn't you agree. And Secondly, The doctrine of Irresistible...
  13. Mjh29

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    Wow. Slap this on your church's message board, and just watch the scores of people lining up to go inside. Yeah.... nope. Just saying tact is very improtant. I mean, Im clearly Protestant, look at my prof. Pic, but still.... not very uplifting.... at all
  14. Mjh29

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    The problem with calvinism is that God does not let man know HIS conditions so that who wants to can be saved. In fact, it is not a person's decision at all, but only God. THIS is what is not love. God doesnt need to tell man. We already know. We are slaves to sin, and therefore CANNOT...
  15. Mjh29

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    Hi, its that annoyin Calvinist again ;) And, by definition, being elect is being chosen, not choosing.
  16. Mjh29

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    Here is the problem with the English language.... Ok, one of the problems anyways. When Jesus said that, He did not speak it in English. He actually spoke that in the Koine Greek. English has a nasty habit of misinterpreting what the Greek really meant. Don't misunderstand, Im not downing the...
  17. Mjh29

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    .... But you said all were called. And those He predestined, He also called; and those He called, He also justified; and those He justified, He also glorified. Romans 8:30
  18. Mjh29

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    So.... everyone is in heaven. Including Hitler and other like minded oppressive dictators? No, of course not. And the obligation you are making reference to does not refer to God being obligated to Himself, rather; God being obligated to man. To put it, as you said, simply; God doesn't owe man...
  19. Mjh29

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    Well, I AM a Calvinist,(lol go ahead and bash me; Ive heard it all lollll ;)} and I agree; Predestination is Biblical. However, it was not based on any good God saw in any of us, because there "Are none good, no not one.'. Rather, God chose a particular people based on His Sovereign Will, not on...
  20. Mjh29

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    So... all men go to heaven?