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We disagree. I'm... not even sure I can make sense of what you say here. :) I would rephrase it this way, that the most important resurrection event, other than Christ's physical resurrection (two millennia ago), is the spiritual resurrection of the saints ~ which occurs at some point in...

Great. Okay, sure... Hm. The rest of the mankind, even while physically living, is dead. The are dead in their sin. They are, at any particular point in time, headed toward the second death (and the first, of course, along with everyone else, even us who are in Christ), Right, but we all...

Well, the first physical resurrection is that of Christ, yes. And then the way we have "a part in" that is to be resurrected in spirit, which is the immediate result of being born again of the Spirit. And yes, we will be physically resurrected at Christ's return ~ along with (but immediately...

Yes, he does... :) We have been raised up with Christ... The physical resurrection and ascension of Christ, yes, but we have been spiritually resurrected ~ by the Spirit, in Christ ~ and thus are, again, spiritually speaking, by the Spirit and in spirit, seated with Him in the heavenly places...

Hmmmm... Well, I would say that being born again is the guarantee of what our final state will be and where we will be and with Whom we will be. Perhaps you will agree... Absolutely. Resurrected in spirit... raised in spirit, and seated with Christ in the heavenly places. Yes...

It is what it is. :) At the very least, when Paul says to Christians in Rome, "And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience ~...

You did say, JBO, the following: "If you mean to say that mankind is spiritually dead from birth, then you are wrong. God forms the spirit in each of us. He doesn't give us a spirit dead at birth. He gives us a spirit alive and well at birth, Just like Adam and Eve, the spirit of a man dies...

Absolutely. Never said otherwise. But I very much disagree that Jesus ~ as God ~ was quickened by the Spirit. Now, yes, He became man, and was tempted in every way we are, so also fully man, so in that sense, I would agree. So... :) no... and yes. :) I'm fully aware of that Peter says in 1...

Okay, well, not “cherry-picking”… But 1 Peter 1:3-5 is certainly not an exhaustive list of passages speaking of our absolute security in Christ. Goodness, no…. :) Agreed. Disagreed. Paul has just said, in Romans 8: “There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus… No...

Lol! Well, I hope so, but if not, it’s… okay. :) Right… Sure… I don’t think I have to add this here, but I will, anyway… All are bodily resurrected, but not all to the same thing. We see this in what Jesus says in John 5:28-29. Sure. Right. Sure. I’m… not really sure how universalism is...

It very much is a resurrection, but of the spirit within us, by the Spirit. And you seem to say that very thing later in this post, especially by pointing out what Paul says in Ephesians 2, yet still deny it. Interesting… and puzzling at the same time. See, here you say this, and I’m right...

Absolutely. We are kept not in our own power, but in the power of God, by His Spirit. He has the power to keep us from stumbling or falling away. He Who began a good work in us will ~ will, not “might” ~ bring it to completion at the day of Christ (Philippians 1:6). As Peter says: “Blessed be...

Well, maybe that the death Jesus is talking about is far beyond physical death of the mortal body…? :) Yes. However… I’m not sure if you understand the latter as a cessation of existence, but it is not. Yes. Yes. Will be resurrected to eternal life ~ true life in and with the One Who is...

We, like David, we’re conceived in sin (Psalm 51:5). Well, yes, but that is most certainly no mere thing. :) I am… cautiously… interested in how you understand this quickening. :) Well, I know that many people think that, yes. :) And your question here says much to me of your…...

Yes there is, JBO. I certainly don’t mean to offend, or “talk down to,” you or anyone else, but you just seem to not really grasp what that means. In this life, one is either dead in spirit ~ dead in his/her sin, a slave to unrighteousness, of his/her father the devil ~ or born again of the...

Naturally, we are dead in our sin from birth. Paul says in Ephesians 2:1-5 that even we who are now in Christ were dead in the trespasses and sins in which we once walked… we all once lived in the passions of our flesh… and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. This is the...

Well, good question. :) I was pretty clear in post number 25 above, I think. :) Grace and peace to you, Hobie.

Well, we have no need to be… “re-redeemed.” :) Regardless where we are at any point in time, if we are not in Christ, we have no standing before the Father. In which case we… wouldn’t be in heaven at all; we would never get there. Think I would point you to Ephesians 2:4-10 here, among other...

I’m very well aware of that, Davy. Right you are, there, for sure. I get that you are perceiving it as an attack. :) it’s not about you, though, Davy. It’s about your self-righteousness and condescension. Yes, I am mocking that; it is well-deserved. :) Pffft. And I say your...

Well, I wasn’t trying to, JBO. What I did was redirect you to how you should approach it. God created man with his spirit and his physical body united. This was the state of Adam and Eve in Eden before the events documented by Moses in Genesis 3. He and Eve, though, as a result of what they did...