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Okay, I understand, I guess, but no... The unbelief of ethnic Jews and the partial hardening in this way of Israel has benefitted the Gentiles in that this now is the period of history in which the Gentile elect are being saved, while most of Israel elect for now remains in unbelief. But God's...

Well, not strictly chronological. I agree. What I would say, Jay ~ and you may or may not agree ~ is that it is chronological to a certain degree... seven times over. :) Generally speaking. Thank you for your thoughtful posts and gentle, graceful rebuttals to... well, another poster. :)...

Well, great, we agree on something! LOL... It's not that I don't care what you have to say, Mary. All I said was whether your answer is yes or no ~ whether you agreed that we were in a worship/church setting or not ~ I didn't consider you to be preaching or teaching. Good grief. Right...

No "games"... <eyeroll> How do these two things correlate to you, Mary? I mean, how? Do you consider you and me (and other posters, maybe), now, in a worship or church setting? And regardless of your answer to that, I don't consider you to be preaching or teaching, as I said. I don't even...

Disagree. My position (as per above) is that that prophecy is in the process of being fulfilled even as we speak. The physical temples of old (built by Solomon and rebuilt on the return to the promised land from exile in Babylon) pointed to the true temple still in the process of being built...

The church where you are a member ~ which would presumably have some sort of structure and polity and therefore be able to mediate such matters as appropriate. I... didn't say you were. Sure. And these persons do not have to be elders or deacons. Sure. I didn't say otherwise, nor would I...

We (Christians) are the temple under construction, Hobie. As Paul says: "So then you (Gentiles) are no longer strangers and aliens, but you (Gentiles) are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus...

I don't play games, Rebuilder. More or less, yes. I would probably put it a little differently, but yes. Funny how we attribute to each other the very same thing, no? Grace and peace to you.

You know, I was going to reply, but it can't be answered better that RWB just did above. I actually did, previously, though, when I said, "(t)he true Christian church of all times and all places... Christ's Church." Grace and peace to you, Mary.

And you think He was talking about the Roman Catholic Church... LOL! Nope... That "good" old Catholic narrative again... The true Christian church of all times and all places, yes. Christ's Church. The Bible doesn't ever tell us that women have nothing to offer (or cannot serve) or that we...

LOL! In a sense, no; that will not truly happen until Christ returns. On certain things, yes. Well, they thought "The Church" was doing and teaching some things at odds with Scripture, and they were right. Not at all. This is the Catholic narrative. :) Agreed. A terrible...

No she didn't... God had already told them (and all of creation) in Genesis 1:28 to "be fruitful and multiply: "God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and...

Right, but the point was that you had said, "(t)he Holy Spirit did not dwell within, but instead came upon people in OT times." In both Ezekiel 19 and Ezekiel 36, God is saying that He puts His Spirit in those people. Paul refers to these passages specifically in Romans 9-11, Ephesians 2...

You say that as if I don't... :) Yes, wrong ones... :) Yes, right ones... :) Agreed. :) Very ambiguous. :) Some of the specific issues that they addressed were different. If you think they disagreed on anything specific, then it would help if you identified those things, instead of...

Because they were not called by God. So they never were saved, and eventually proved it, to themselves and to others. This is what John says in 1 John 2:19, that unbelievers "went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went...

That's true, but listen to what the prophet Joel, whom John and Paul specifically reference/echo, who quotes God Himself: “And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, and your...

Ugh. It was really a rhetorical question, Scott. See my reply to Taken above. Over-complicating things is... tiresome. :) Grace and peace to you.

Well, yes... and no. It depends on the context you put that statement in. If you are saying it in the same way that Paul, in Romans 7, says "it is no longer I who sin, but sin that dwells within me," then I agree. :) Right. It was really a rhetorical question. Grace and peace to you.

LOL! So the Catholic narrative goes... "Started an entire new teaching of salvific beliefs..." Wow. We will agree, for sure, that the Reformers wanted to change a lot of non-Biblical teachings/understandings that were (and still are; there is nothing new under the sun) out there. But...

I'll ask it a different, even simpler way, Scott. Do you believe you no longer sin, that you are now sinless? Grace and peace.