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Hmmm... Well, before offering my thoughts on this, my question would be, what do you mean by "mingle?" Are you talking about fellowship/friendship or keeping to yourself/themselves and not interacting with anybody other than Israelites? Or are you talking about evangelicalism? Or... Yes...

LOL! Oh, everybody here says that... :) And I'm sure you think you really are... :) The problem is the nutty context... or, "typology"... you're applying to it. LOL! The crazy thing is, you're not even talking about heaven... but somehow think you are. "Right." :) As I have said...

Not right now... One day, though, heaven and earth will one again. :) The heavens ~ all the stars and planets and moons and stuff, sure, but Heaven itself? No... LOL! Very "interesting"... :) Come on, man. Don't be ridiculous. The climb is arduous, and the air gets pretty thin, sure...

He did, yes. Well... this is a technicality, I guess, but really similes, actually, as in, "The Kingdom of heaven is like..." Hmm... So you think; I understand. Both your understanding of that and my disagreement your understanding are very well documented. I maintain ~ according to Jesus's...

I don't believe you. Well, what you understand as "the trib" is different my understanding of tribulation, but beyond that, just to answer your question, yes. No. Unless... maybe we can call our being caught up together with the dead in Christ in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air in His...

Grace and peace to you.

Sure. That's... kinda what I said... :) Grace and peace to you.

LOL! You and I can't go a mile above sea level and survive? We can... :) I mean, I've never been to a Denver Broncos football game, but there's a reason why their stadium is called Mile High Stadium... :) And we could climb Mt. Everest, which is about five miles high, and survive; several...

Cool. I... think I disagree with you here, APAK, if I understand what you're saying correctly. I don't think His methods of dealing with evil have changed, or the "tactics or methods" to save His people. At least with regard to the latter, the writer of Hebrews (ultimately God, of course)...

So you think; I have always understood your thoughts on that. That was one of the main points back at the beginning of this exchange, and not just with you but several others; the events described in Revelation 20 are not wholly subsequent to the events described in Revelation 19:11-21, but...

To you, yes, I get that. You're not alone; looooooooooooooooots of people have blinders on. :) I have never done any such thing. Certainly, Noah was far above the earth, in the sense that he was in a boat which was floating upon the waters of the flood. But certainly, I have rejected and...

Okay, good... but I'm not sure what you mean by "heavily loaded." :) But no matter. :) Sure. He's sovereign over all. He is sitting at God's right hand. Somehow, someway, He is working all things together for the good of those who love Him and are called according to His purpose. To...

Yep and yep. I'm well aware of what you said... as if by God or some other supernatural force... chuckles... And I SAID ~ and do, and always will say ~ that that's ridiculous, even according to Genesis 7 itself, which says (and I quote), "The waters increased and bore up the ark, and it rose...

Yes. He is seated (which has far, far greater implications than merely that He is sitting down rather than standing) at the right hand of God the Father (which has far, far greater implications than merely that He is on the Father's right rather than His left). :) Christ Jesus is reigning now...

TN, Paul speaks of the natural and spiritual natures. It really has nothing to do with physicality or lack thereof. The natural state of man is his/her deadness in sin, even in his/her... physicality... his/her physical body. The spiritual state of man is dependent upon the Holy Spirit...

Why would I do such a ridiculous thing, Timtofly? I have no idea what would spawn such a silly question... Hmm, another very interesting "take" on things... :) I'll just say this, that in both Revelation 4 and Revelation 15, the "sea of glass" is reminiscent of the Red Sea crossing and God’s...

No and no. You and your "colleagues" are the ones who created that false (and ridiculous) narrative. Riiiiiiight, you "showed me," alright. LOL! No "dodging" necessary... LOL! You're the one in green here, Rebuilder: Nobody I know has ever said or insinuated in any way that Noah did not...

Interesting. :). And quite entertaining… :) Grace and peace to you, Timtofly.

Uh, Rebuilder, no one disagrees that Noah was far above the ground, and even above the mountains… in a boat. About Noah being “removed” from anything, yes, and that it’s some kind of “example” of a “rapture,” yes. <Chuckles> Grace and peace to you.

But if the two witnesses, which are lampstands, which then are churches... I think trying to parse things out is an issue or a tendency or practice that we should refrain from (and that's generally true of Revelation); I don't believe John's intent was for the reader to do that on any scale...