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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That's like going to the mechanic, and he is forbidden to speak because everything concerning your car is in the shop manual. He can only hand you the book. Huh?????? Salvation is a person, not a book. AHEM..that PERSON TALKS. His name is Jesus. Jesus said, "my sheep HEAR MY VOICE"
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Whatever you do. don't read revelation, as your methods would be confusing and void the entire vision. John was told not to write what the 7 spirits uttered. It remains a mystery. But will be revealed ,OUTSIDE OF ANYONE'S BIBLE, in due time...as the WORD OF GOD declares. All the apostles were...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    How can you walk up to the barn, shoot at it with the shotgun from 2 ft away .....AND MISS??????
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Then what are all those people doing in heaven in the book of Revelation? From the martyrs to the one John tried to worship, which was outside the vision. That MAN in heaven, even declared who he was. Not only that, but the thief on the cross was told that he would be with Jesus in spirit in...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I give you an "f" in comprehension. " pretending" by being in QUOTE, would point to "not literally". Show me where I said pretending, as you are erroneously implying. But I actually knew you would do just that, as you are now just trolling the subject. But yes FAITH WOULD BE LIKE "PRETENDING"...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No, what they said is actually a no brainer You will NEVER find faith exercised without trust Nope. Faith is basically "pretending" like the word of God is true. (acting on what He says,whether it conflicts with my mind or not) (AHEM,TRUSTING HIM) Not enough. Faith must be applied. The devil...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The word says that peter walked on water, until he looked around. eyesight (understanding) caused him to fail. I have already shown you that faith is Blind. Peter VIVIDY demonstrated that to you. I can post unlimited verses challenging your idea that faith and trust are not Basically the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    you saying God never talks to you?
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    All rapture verses are normal life, Peacetime. And commerce Your template has the rapture in a completely different format. Pretrib rapture is lot ,Noah, the 5 wise virgins. The historic baby Jesus , and 1 thes 4. Not to mention the 2 escape verses. Pretrib rapture is easy to defend. Ask...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    All Christians are in direct contact with God. If not, Then something is wrong...very wrong
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Maybe this will help From gotquestions.org "In Scripture, faith is defined as “the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” (Hebrews 11:1). In other words, faith involves trusting in something you cannot explicitly prove. Faith is inseparable from trust; it’s the...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    No The AC overcomes the saints. All gentiles are beheaded that refuse the mark. Postrib rapture is impossible
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The only Place anyone is burned is in the GWTJ after the Millennium So that gathering can not possibly be the rapture.
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Do you look at the pretrib rapture verses in your assessment?
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Good post. The 144k solidly testify that the main rapture of 1 thes 4 must be pretrib.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    QUOTE "God does not bypass anything. The Bible was written in normal human language, which anyone can read. If there is a lack of understanding, it comes from being unfamiliar with the overall context." Heb 11 says way different; 11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Pot<> kettle. Calm down and get a bible
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Lol Pure lies. Pituful
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Your answer to heb 8 changes nothing about that verse; Quote "We understand this verse from within the context. Before making that statement, he said, "one must believe that God exists and he is the rewarder of those who seek him." So, we see that Faith is accepting the truth about God." Heb...