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  1. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Quote ""No, no, no. God does not expect blind obedience"" Then you do not trust Him. You "process and choose to obey"
  2. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Sorry 'bout Dat. But If ya'll want to change God's Holy Word...go ahead.
  3. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It literally translates "mansions". kjv got it correct JESUS is in heaven, building mansions for His bride. Pretrib rapture big time. All others waiting for the AC will hide and watch the groom fetch the bride. They have an appointment with beheading, or take the mark to save their hides. But...
  4. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    ...and see where I totally blew your doctrine apart.
  5. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Let's get serious. Elijah and Enoch alone make your out of context verses completely misplaced Let alone the 144k in Rev 14 before the throne in heaven are 144,000 testimonies forcing you to go against the bible. Concerning the disciples not allowed to go to heaven in their earthly bodies...
  6. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No verses No thoughtful debate. Carry on sir
  7. rebuilder 454

    Do you believe Spirit baptism replaces water baptism?

    I partially agree. I love your thoughtfulness, and charachter.
  8. rebuilder 454

    Do you believe Spirit baptism replaces water baptism?

    The new Testament in kjv is almost word for word in step with the TR. Greek
  9. rebuilder 454

    Paul's hypocrisy and its consequence

    Don't believe Randy was being dishonest. I don't believe that Paul was a hypocrite, he was absolutely and completely sold out to the Lord Jesus Christ
  10. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    SMH. poppycock. Lies..pure lies. Multiple verses make up the ptretrib doctrine. So everytime you lie, your assignment is to stand in front of s mirror and tell yourself; "I lie about pretribbers and I have done so,so often I now can not tell the truth" Please stop lying. Admit the truth. We...
  11. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    But note the civil back and forth. The thoughtful discussion. So yes, without the amil nastiness and zero thoughtful discussion...it is totally out of place.
  12. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Woah...exactly backwards! Heb 11 8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. The thief on the cross had zero understanding about Jesus telling him he would be in Paradise...
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    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Double post
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    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Oh the irony! A person that is confoosed about salvation and who Jesus is. You need a ton of instruction. Lol.
  15. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I don't understand everything concerning God's word. Neither did Abraham. Or the apostles. Nobody did or does. That is where faith is invoked. Or just plain obedience and "echoing" what the word of God says back to Him. If you disagree with the Bible, that is your choice, and mental...
  16. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You are demonstrating why theologians can not unpack the deity of Jesus.. You also demonstrate that rejecting that deity, YOU MUST MODIFY THE BIBLE. That is what you are demonstrating It is somewhat understood. Suppose a man let's his son die in place of a mass murderer.( As illustrated in the...
  17. rebuilder 454

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    I am sorry you have such a misunderstanding of who Jesus is. Why do you attempt to correct someone when you have such a lack understanding?
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    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    By Jesus being God,( equal to the Father, but not the Father), His being is way past a "ontology" with the Father. If you play it from the " backside", then another picture emerges. What if He was not God. What changes. 1) the cross is made null and void. 2) we would not have a kinsman redeemer...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Ontology = Logic,outlook,reason,ideas.? ( I had to look it up) If that is what you mean, then it is true, however, a non deity could have those qualities, should he be in one mind and unity with God. By Jesus being God,( equal to the Father, but not the Father), His being is way past a...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The Father calls him God. The Father commands angels to worship Him. Both found in Hebrews ch 1. Done deal. The Father is the alpha and omega Jesus is the alpha and omega We worship Jesus. Correctly so