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    WHAT ALMOST ALL PREMILLENNIALISTS DO NOT NOTICE OR REFUSE TO SEE

    I added some more to that post. Maybe you didn't see that yet?
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    WHAT ALMOST ALL PREMILLENNIALISTS DO NOT NOTICE OR REFUSE TO SEE

    Unless one believes in an unbiblical gap in Genesis 1, everything God created in the beginning was new, and even so, it didn't stop satan from doing what he did at the time. Except the 2nd time around he will not be able to accomplish what he did the first time around. What then is the issue...
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    WHAT ALMOST ALL PREMILLENNIALISTS DO NOT NOTICE OR REFUSE TO SEE

    Have you looked at Isaiah 60, for example, and then compared some of that with Revelation 21 and 22? The point being, in that same context it then says the following. Isaiah 60:12 For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    When they are doing that per what Matthew 24:32-26 is involving, it is pertaining to being possibly deceived by this. During the millennium, assuming it is still future, no one would be meaning it in that sense if He wa literally bodily present somewhere on the earth at the time. Clearly, per...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    As far as Great Tribulation in particular, that phrase is only mentioned in the following verses. Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Revelation 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    Per the Discourse it would be pertaining to everything Jesus said that gets fulfilled. Which includes numerous things, and that this generation cannot pass way until all of these things are fulfilled first. For example. Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    It's not clear to me what all you are saying here. Can you perhaps expand on this so that I can at least get on the same page with you? Until I'm on the same page with you first, I have no clue how to address your post in the meantime.
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    Irrefutable biblical proof that death is abolished at the second coming

    You apparently don't get how some things work. What was hidden in the OT at the time is revealed in the NT. What is one thing that is revealed in the NT? That there are two comings of Christ. Therefore, it is unreasonable to think that nothing recorded in the OT is involving the 2nd coming and...
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    Irrefutable biblical proof that death is abolished at the second coming

    One way to put this debate to rest is to convincingly show with Zechariah 14 itself, as to how verses 16-19 are meaning before the 2nd coming rather than after. How verses 16-19 are meaning before verse 12 is fulfilled rather than after? And they shall go up from year to year, as to how they can...
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    Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

    It should be a simple matter of letting context determine what He is meaning in the Discourse pertaining to this generation. The context He said that in, is it involving first century events? Or is it involving the end of this age and events involving the 2nd coming? Something else that...
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    WHAT ALMOST ALL PREMILLENNIALISTS DO NOT NOTICE OR REFUSE TO SEE

    What you are basically arguing, is it this? That the reason Premil also has the the commencement of the thousand years in the wrong location in time, is because Premil has the thousand years, as do Amils, commencing before the time of the NHNE rather than during the time of the NHNE instead?
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    The Seven Last Plagues

    Great tribulation is already in the past when the last 7 vials of wrath commence. Great tribulation is involving satan's wrath upon the church, not God's wrath upon anyone instead. Your charts don't prove anything one way or the other. All they are are charts with your opinions baked into them...
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    The Seven Last Plagues

    I'm not certain if I can agree entirely with that, based on the following, for one. Revelation 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. 9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath...
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    You are neither Premil nor Pretrib, yet you hold some of the same doctrines that Pretrib holds. Maybe you used to be a Pretrib Premil before you changed your position to Amil? If so, what is the point of changing positions if you are still holding on to some of those past positions after having...
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    Where is "The Beloved City" and "the camp of the saints" of Revelation 20?

    Revelation 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the...
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    The Kingdom of God.... Is it within you?

    If you are meaning unbelieving Jews here, the first mistake you are making is using the term 'return' in regards to them and their thinking on this. No unbelieving Jew thinks Jesus is returning. They don't even think He has come yet, let alone is returning. And not only that, they don't even...
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    Many saints conflate birth with resurrection

    What Scriptures lead you to believe that they receive eternal bodies? Especially when considering the following? Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat...
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    Many saints conflate birth with resurrection

    One way to maybe determine this is by looking at some other examples. Such as... Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels...
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    How can Premils possibly be wrong that there is a gap between 1 Cor 15:23 and 1 Cor 15:24?

    Let's call this A)---they that are Christ's at his coming. And let's call this B)---1 Corinthians 15:24 and 1 Corinthians 15:28. Zechariah 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while...
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    The Kingdom of God.... Is it within you?

    Finally a non Premil who gets it, that satan can't be in multiple places at the same time. Therefore, when he is depicted bound in the pit, he can't also be depicted as roaming around outside of the pit at the same time. That makes him omnipresent if he can since this places him in 2 different...