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Apparently, Amils don't think Christ is capable of or even worthy of reigning over this fallen world in person for awhile until it's time for the end to finally arrive. That He can only do that unseen during His ascension, but certainly not in person. Like I pointed out in another thread, Amil...

For one, how about per post #2 for the time being? Unless you have a more reasonable explanation that fits Amil better than Premil, in regards to the timing and length of Matthew 19:28, it seems to me then that that post alone trumps anything and everything you brought up in this post where you...

As far as me or anyone using the KJV, I'm going to continue to use it, regardless. I like the translation and trust it for the most post. That aside. Why in the world would you be disagreeing that once verse 24 is fulfilled, that it then equals what verse 28 records? Obviously, verse 24 can't be...

You can't conflate things in this manner then insist that if one agrees, that satan, in general, has been limited by God to some extent as to what he can or can not do, that this then means this same one can't argue against Revelation 20:1-3 being a present reality. For example, Job ch 1...

Let's call this A)---they that are Christ's at his coming(1 Corinthians 15:23) . And let's call this B)---1 Corinthians 15:24 and 1 Corinthians 15:28. Let's now consider the following passage. Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in...

1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he...

Something that has crossed my mind is this. This of course can't fit Premil, though. Revelation 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without...

I get where you are coming from I think, yet I disagree since I take nothing pertaining to Matthew 24:15 to be involving 70 AD events. In my mind, by comparing Scripture with Scripture, I see zero reason to take Matthew 24:15-16 in the literal sense, where one is literally in Judea in the middle...

Did Josephus ever write anything in his accounts pertaining to what happened in those days about anything involving an AOD standing in the holy place, standing where it ought not?

When I say involving 70 AD, I'm basically meaning everything involved with that, including events leading up to it, which 66 AD would be.

Provide an example elsewhere from Scripture that supports armies being an abomination. If I can see a Scripture that supports this theory, maybe then I might rethink some of this. Personally, I don't seem to recall reading anywhere in the Bible that armies are connected with an abomination...

Assuming that is what the AOD was, the logic would be the following then. Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: ) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the...

And how do you propose they did that when interpreters who insist they did, they all can't seem to agree what it was they saw? Why should this AOD still be a mystery as to what it was if it has already been fulfilled according to many interpreters?

My point about the Luke 19 parable in question is that it literally takes place on the earth, except some Amils have the entire planet engulfed in flames at the time, thus no habitable earth to return to, thus they insist that Jesus doesn't set foot on the earth again until after the great white...

Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see(eido) Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Unless my Strong's is incorrect, My Strong's records that 'see' in this verse is also eido rather than optánomai. Aren't you arguing that 'see' in this verse is meaning in...

This is a problem for Amil not me if Amils insist the sheep and goats judgment is the great white throne judgment. I'm not the one insisting they are the same judgment. Clearly, as I have shown, the sheep and goats judgment takes place on the earth. Regardless where the great white throne...

Obviously, Luke 21:20 is pertaining to the events involving 70 AD, regardless that some in this thread disagree. But is Matthew 24:15 also referring to these same events? I don't see how, especially based on what you just submitted then comparing that to what Matthew 24:15 records. You said...

----------------------------- The day of the Lord, where does that fit in the Discourse? ----------------------------- The gathering in Matthew 24:31, is that involving the rapture or something else? ------------------------- If the destroying of the 2nd temple is the main focus of the...

Don't some Amils, if not all Amils, take the following to be involving the great white throne judgment? Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations...

Per your view, you don't have the NHNE happening until the great white throne judgment has occurred first. And that you have no more days remaining once the last day of this age occurs when Christ returns. Do you then think that the great white throne judgment can commence and conclude on the...