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There is more balance here on this forum than ever before right now. I'm in the "stop sinning, obey Jesus" camp. Welcome!

What led to this conclusion?

Understood. Maybe its just me who thinks $600 jeans is excessive. lol If they're good people, that's far more important, though.

If a clear Scripture doesn't convince someone, there's a limit to what anyone can do. But hopefully you fare better than I ever did. Hopefully God has mercy on the churches.

Maybe we should take a breath and pray before posting? Posts like these are why we can't have nice things ....and by that I mean closed threads.

Sadly, I think western churches have fallen away or were just in the falling away stage in general. New believers are taught Christianese phrases, but not Scripture in context. Then, the Christianese becomes what makes us feel okay, because Scripture becomes too much to endure. We can get to...

Yes. Titus 2:3-5 based ministry for women is my passion. I see a strong need for it. Way stronger than the need for my arguing about salvation. I never got results. I could post Scriptures that directly counter a post, and most people still approached me like a misguided soul in need of...

Im grateful for the clarity in this. I get frustrated with anti-works teaching because believing it really hurt my faith in the past. However, I no longer feel it's my jurisdiction to act as a teacher of doctrine. Scripture is against women acting as teachers over men because Eve was decieved...

Yes. Paul was a Jewish Pharisee before coming to Christ. I believe he wrote Romans 7 to show the Roman converts that righteousness by faith with the Holy Spirit is the only way to beat sin, not the 613 laws of Moses.

I like where you're going with that. I believe "appropriate for the situation" is a part of modesty. Sometimes a modest outfit stands out but it cant be helped if the crowd is just too immodest. 1 Timothy 2:9 King James Version 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest...

How do you describe your beliefs now? I was influenced by Calvinist and Evangelicalism too. My husband and I are deconstructionist with the modern church but strict on adhering to the Scriptures.

Excellent! Do you mind if I save this post? I think a lot of believers are taught 1 John 1:8 out of context. We can and should stop sinning.

I believe Romans 7 is Paul describing his life loving the Law of Moses and wanting to do good but failing because of his battle with sin. Romans 6 clearly says we are to reckon ourselves dead to sin upon baptism. Romans 8 declares that living by faith in Christ is the answer to battling...

It seems you aren't against works at all when done in faith. Its more as if you are saying not all works are works based righteousness. I agree. Forgive me if thats what you were already saying and Im overthinking. Titus 2:13-15 13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of...

When you say gender prejuduce, can you explain what you specifically mean?

@Grailhunter Thanks for the post! I really like this statement... This is the type of man I believe women benefit the most in marrying.

Unfortunately the churches today in America often avoid hard truths because it advances their business growth. A Godly church would tell married women not to burn out doing endless activities for the church if it caused them to disrespect, disobey, or neglect their husbands. But then they'd...

I love to read about how different Christian women practice and apply modesty. But it got confusing at times. I see several camps: Camp 1: Its not about rules and a dress code, its about the heart!!! Camp 2: There is a biblical dress code and it shows reverence for God. Camp 3: Modesty is...

Yes it was the norm for worship settings depending on what the church taught. Some women wore it full time, others, obly for prayer and church. And it was both cultural and biblical for cultures that embraced Christianity. Prostitutes would probably not wear one but they wouldn't have been...

I love this question! Hope you are enjoying the forum! I believe Christian stopped head covering because of feminism like you said...but not completely. A wedding veil is a tradition from 1 Corinthians 11. A few years ago, I read 1 Corinthians 11 and decided to research head covering and...