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  1. Douggg

    The Rapture - At Any Hour

    @Davidpt David, could you please clarify... by NOSAS, do you mean... Not once saved, but always saved". In other words, are you meaning by that, a person is not saved over and over, but only once and that one time will be forever ...
  2. Douggg

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Matthew 24:15-21, is talking about when the great tribulation begins (sometime in the near future before the parable of the fig tree generation passes away). Actually beginning a few months before the beast-king's rule of 42 months, and ending when that 42 months is over - at Jesus's return...
  3. Douggg

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    I think part of the confusion and error being made is because of using the term "tribulation" instead of "great tribulation" (as in Matthew 24:21). 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. The great...
  4. Douggg

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    "the tribulation of those days" in Matthew 24:29 is referring to the first 1290 days of the 1335 day long great tribulation. The abomination of desolation to be setup in Daniel 12:11 in the time of the end, Daniel 12:9. Then 1290 days (the tribulation of those days ) later, Matthew 24:29 - to...
  5. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. The underlined phrase is talking about from all nations, all around the world. "from one end of heaven to the other"...
  6. Douggg

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    "time" is not used in a metaphorically way that "tree" can sometimes be, such as - family tree. All of Daniel 12 is time of the end, the latter days. The person speaking in Daniel 12 is not Daniel, but a angel that came to visit Daniel in Daniel 10. And in Daniel 10:14, that angel said...
  7. Douggg

    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    Hi David, I disagree with the Amil position. But I am not following the logic of your argument. Have you ever read Hebrews 6:4-6 ? It makes me think of persons who leave Christianity to say for example become a Muslim, such as Yusuf Estes (You Tube). Anyway, this thread had taken on a...
  8. Douggg

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Because there are the 7 years of the 70th week in Revelation, and because there are the same 7 years in Ezekiel 39:9 right after the destruction of Gog's armies - we can be certain that Jesus was not crucified in the middle of the 70th week. In John 12:12-16, Jesus rode on a donkey into...
  9. Douggg

    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    Your standard catch phrases, repeated over and over, designed to degrade the other poster and their content. You are violating the forum rules... "Do not attack another member's character in any way. Address the post content, not the member's character, family, denominational affiliation or...
  10. Douggg

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    Jesus was crucified not on the holy place of the temple mount. But Golgotha. Mark 15:22. John 19:17-20. Golgotha was close to the city walls of Jerusalem, but outside of the city walls. The abomination of desolation of Daniel 12:11-12 is time of the end. Daniel 12:9.
  11. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Try doing an organizational table of your own, pencil and paper. Left side the beginning of the seven years. Right side the end of the seven years, the day of Jesus's return. I listed all the timeframes. In particular, put the time, times, half time of Revelation 12:14 where it fits...
  12. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    You can't go by chapter number, but by the information given in each chapter. The way to organize timeframes given in bible prophecy, whether in Revelation or Daniel or Ezekiel, is connect to either the beginning of the 7 years (Daniel 9:27). Or to the ending of the 7 years. Only three...
  13. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    So you are claim the time/times/half time of Daniel 12:7 is 3584 years, thereabouts. And not three and a half years, roughly. Even though Daniel 12:7 is bracketed by both Daniel 12:4 and Daniel 12:9 as being time of the end. And Daniel 12 is the presentation by the angel visiting Daniel in...
  14. Douggg

    Only a Remnant will Return.

    Isaiah 10 is about God's punishment of the northern nation, by the Assyrian in Isaiah 10:5, because they had gotten into idol worship. Nothing to to with end times Israel. There is not going to be a solar event that you are predicting that will destroy the current population in Israel. To...
  15. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    I am not taking your bait, Jay. Address the topic(s), not the other posters. In terms of years, how long are you claiming the time/times/half time of Daniel 12:7 is ?
  16. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Here is the last verse of Revelation 12. 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. ---------------------------------------- Revelation 12:17 takes place during the...
  17. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    The 7th trumpet sounding is not in the text of Revelation 12, I agree. However, the 7th trumpet sounding is associated with the woe to the inhabiters of the earth, according to the text of Revelation 8:13. And woe to the inhabiters of the earth is in the text of Revelation 12:12.
  18. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    The three verses you referenced in Matthew 24 do not all take place on the same day as the verses your referenced in Revelation 19, and thus are not the same event. So the answer is no, considering the way you phrased your question. There are several events in Matthew 24:29-31. in time line...
  19. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Spiritual Israelite, it is not that hard to understand. Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: The tribulation of those...