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@Hidden In Him points out that subscribing to both views warrants having both titles. Directed towards another member who also affirmed both to be true, he said: You are affirming two views that are logically incompatible. Of course you disagree with this, but the contradiction is clear, and...

Thank you, I appreciate you for providing a clear answer when asked. This helps me to understand your position much more.

Therefore, knowing God glorifies God by necessity. Therefore, knowing God does not glorify God by necessity. So, why? Why is it that in my view, as you claim, there are specific conditions required with knowing God in order for Him to be glorified, while with yours, there aren't? Am I...

Will you please define "paradox"?

Now you're arguing as an atheist would. He is absolutely the ultimate cause of it, since if He did not create mankind, then that action never would have happened. But the action did happen, and you affirm that He is not in any way the cause of it. This would mean that He isn't God of all things...

This is the issue I meant you ought to deal with regarding God's omniscience:

In that same message I linked above, I also asked you, How is it a contradiction? You show that they are two separate things. "Complaining" and "causing" are two separate things. Is it a logical contradiction? If so, how? If not, then how is there a problem with it being true? I even made a...

I addressed this objection of yours earlier in this thread. I was one who first provided the verse, and I even explained that your interpretation must mean that you deny God's omniscience!

Right, you told me that if God controls everything, then any talk of choices would be absurd. Perhaps you will have a better time discussing with me if you actually engage with my views, instead of simply claiming "absurdity" and... what was it? "Gooblygook"?

I'm not sure we are using the terms "relative" and "metaphysical" in the same way, because if you indeed affirmed God's total supremacy (as you did) in my sense of the phrase, "in the metaphysical sense", then you'd be affirming that you are a Determinist like me. But you're arguing against it...

That is what you get when you make such assertions against my Biblical view. I take you at your word and apply reasoning according to the laws of logic. "Clearly meant" according to whom? Your words have meanings, and as Scripture points out, (1 Corinth 2:11) I cannot read your thoughts. What...

You said: "If God is controlling everything, any talk of choices is absurd." Your own rule affirms that logical conclusions are absurd. Edit: (That is, if God really does control all things, then we must make the logical conclusion that He chooses all things. But according to your rule, if God...

Show it, refute what I said without using the systems I wrote about, otherwise your own assertions are nothing more than gooblygook. LOL! What gooblygook! If God controls everything, He chooses what happens!

I'm happy to see that my arguments have encouraged consideration. I'm not sold that "wiring" and "being influenced by your environment" are very Biblical terms or analogies. Scripture says that God directs man's steps. This is a direct appeal to God's sovereignty, whereas terms or analogies...

Well, me asking for a specific example as proof might be very funny, and Scripture says that Scripture cannot be broken, but you are the one who says you can literally make it say anything. So why don't you either show it, or concede it?

Haha! Maybe he got alittle irritated too, and just never showed it! Nevertheless, I notice that he does speak a gentle word just like you do. Isn't it nice that we all have some different interests? 1 Corinth 4:7 For who maketh thee to differ from another?

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I've been thinking about Farouk alot lately. If I recall correctly, it was within the first hour that I made my account here, that he messaged me on my profile page and struck a conversation. Ever since, he's included me in several topics. Farouk, when you see this, I want you to know that I...

Then the government has business in education. This is just speculation, a guess on my part, (though it should be considered,) but make a solid education system not mandatory, and watch a solid education system be absent from the lives of thousands of families, and potentially millions of...

Interesting question. The first thing I look at is the lawgivers, or the government. Are they in control of what is taught? Who is? If there is toxic education, learning it should not be mandatory, because this can destroy an entire nation. If the education is healthy, then I support mandatory...