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  1. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What a mean disrespectful post. Lol
  2. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Says the one who has a doctrine built and promoted on omission of the rapture verses.
  3. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    QUOTE "Billions of martyrs killed by the devil? What nonsense. That is not taught anywhere. You have quite an active imagination." We will note that you are unaware of who kills martyrs.
  4. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    QUOTE "The fact is, this is the end! Jesus comes on the “day of the Lord” as a “thief in the night.” He rescues His people, but equally His appearing sees the “sudden” and total “destruction” of the wicked: “they shall not escape.” I mean, the Holy Spirit could not have made it clearer: "they...
  5. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    QUOTE: "LOL at "emotionally destroyed". What a joke. That is not what Paul is talking about at all. LOL! You will do ANYTHING and go to ANY length to try to keep your weak doctrine afloat. Do you not believe in interpreting scripture with scripture? While Paul does not go into detail about what...
  6. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    He is a glorified troll Nobody but a postriber will have an actual "back and forth" with him. ....and that will.be them backslappng each other with egg all over their faces.
  7. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    All you did Was omit the rapture verses, then transpose the rapture to the white horses. You have zero postrib rapture verses. As you just demonstrated
  8. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That is petty and childish.
  9. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    "....as a mother in travail" Omitting context again? More egg on your face.
  10. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    A simple time line defeats you???? Hmmmmm.
  11. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    He is 99% "anti pretrib rapture". 1% takes mat 24 that has 2 separate vivid gatherings and claims his doctrine of omission is his postrib rapture belief. Reframes the Bible wildly with no red flags. All that egg on his face and his remedy is to smear more on it. What a hoot.
  12. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    " they shall not ESCAPE, but sudden destruction shall come upon them AS A WOMAN WITH A CHILD TRAVAILS". 3639 ólethros (from ollymi/"destroy") – properly, ruination with its full, destructive results (LS). 3639 /ólethros ("ruination") however does not imply "extinction" (annihilation). Rather...
  13. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Show me anywhere in his post, he depicted a postrib rapture. I will wait. I get a chuckle out of that egg on your face.
  14. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Mat 24 has 2 distinct vivid gatherings. Which you omitted.....over and over.
  15. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    "..which WERE redeemed from the earth" You are making a case for " firstfruits unto God", as meaningless, if they are not either raptured, or martyred/ resurrected.
  16. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Hmmmm I would think that a postribber would make a case that conclusively upheld that position Nothing you posted does that, but rather describes what we now posses in this earthly walk. Maybe take our verses and show us where each one has Jesus being mistaken about what He wrote.
  17. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The innumerable number are Christians that have been martyred during the tribulation. They are in heaven during the tribulation. What's interesting is that before they entered heaven the martyrs were restricted to a area under the altar, and not in the general population of Heaven. And they are...
  18. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    All the rapture verses have zero destruction. The only gathering with destruction is the one after the trib at the white horses coming. Which can not be the rapture of the Church. Impossible. So your deal is NA.
  19. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    1) is there any such a thing as race on the planet? 2) is God the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? 3) is God the God of Islam? 4) God is, hands down, the God of a race.
  20. rebuilder 454

    Response to Ricky on Pretrib

    1) been studying in eschatology for over 40 years and the only way I learned of "secret rapture" is from postribbers erroneously ascribing that word to what I believe. 2) the Antichrist, according to scripture ,kills everyone that doesn't receive the mark of the beast ,and that is during the...