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Hey we’ve discussed this before LOL. You are always a gentleman to debate with Randy

Okay how about Jesus own words John 10:16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. Jesus clearly states above that there is only one people in His kingdom made up of both Jew and...

Also why did Paul use two descriptive words for Israel here? “The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. How about “The deliverer (Jesus) will come from Zion;(national Israel) he will turn godlessness away from Jacob (true Israel)

So how would you explain Romans 9:6? It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. In my opinion this verse blows away any argument about who true Israel is. It reveals what Paul meant by true Israel.

Amen Colossians 1:12-13 was written as a current reality in Paul’s time

Thanks but I wasn’t saying that nations are bad (they actually are because no one is good but God). What I am actually saying is that eventually people and nations conform. This happened with the flood, In past nations built on Christian principles and even countless churches. This is why...

Whenever religions become national it never works and eventually conforms and becomes more of man’s religions with man’s rules views. Take for example the time from Adam to the flood,Israel or even Christianity in the Roman Empire. Even so called Christian nations like England, Canada and the...

Genesis 4:13-16 13 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.” 15 But the Lord said to him, “Not so; anyone who...

I think Eve said that because he was the first born he wasn’t made outside of the body. Genesis 4:13-16 13 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the...

Thanks that is my beautiful family they are amazing. I think that text is in the bible for a reason and it is a message and the bible gives us what we need to know as so many other events happened which are not on the bible. Thus there is a message and a purpose. When it states that they...

The post with verse two is that they are married who ever they wanted and only because they were beautiful.

Yes there is truth in a lot of what you say here that I also know but I believe verse 2 below shows that it wasn’t how God based marriage Genesis 6:1-3 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans...

Genesis 6:1-3 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they...

I have already showed my views if you reject them then that your choice but you saying fail is just your view it doesn’t mean that I have.

We will never agree here on all of this but everyone is saved in the same way before and after the cross. The faithful before the cross looked to a future saviour who’s name they didn’t know. John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except...

I think that in that text it doesn’t explain everything because it’s not important what’s important is the message and the message is that the faithful conformed to the unfaithful that’s why the faithful came down to just one man Noah. Thus God had to step in before all humans conformed or that...

Sorry but I’m not quite sure what your getting at here are you agreeing or disagreeing with my post?

Of course Job one is angels in heaven

The faithful before and after the cross are saved in the same way thus we are all sons and daughters of God if we believe

Because the bible only gives the male linage