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    Why I Am a Cessationist

    Amen, there are counterfeits of the true. (Which means the true does exist.) But all power belongs to God......what makes a counterfeit isn't always the power itself, but the wrong way it gets handled....if it's handled with the flesh it can become a snare. Like handling the ark with hands of...
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    Why I Am a Cessationist

    Yes I agree - forum is not the appropriate place for airing everything, especially when we're in process...I wish you well. ok, then I'm just plain confused as to what you believe about cessationism, or what it is you're trying to convey. Seems contradictory, unless I'm the only one who is...
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    Thanks for that, and I agree completely.....just frustrating and makes me anxious at times especially because of how aging is affecting me. (Though I believe and hope that through it I can learn to rely on the Lord more.) And I've never studied church history and early church "fathers" or even...
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    Why I Am a Cessationist

    No worries brother, please don't give it another thought, and I apologize too if I came across as being miffed at times. Amen about emotions, me either. We have emotions, they are a valid part in general of this vessel God created....but we don't live by them. We obey the Lord, not our...
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    Why I Am a Cessationist

    You are loved Johann....hope you get some good rest if you're tired. It's hard work and can be a topsy-turvey ride processing emotions.....but our Anchor holds. Lord bless you and see you in the morning! :pfite:
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    Why I Am a Cessationist

    Amen. 1Co 13:8-10 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is...
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    Sister, I'm just hopeless at keeping up with the more intellectual and scholarly side of everything that is being discussed. I generally have to simplify and whittle things down to be able to make sense of them...it's just the way I am, though I appreciate that there are those who can discuss...
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    Not specifically, but reasoning away the many passages of scripture that talk about miracles and spiritual gifts, which would include hearing from the Lord. I could give you so many testimonies over the course of my life and it has all borne good fruit. And none of it has led me astray or into...
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    No problem Johann....God bless. I'm sorry for rambling.....trying to percolate some things about the Holy Spirit and Pentecost. Feel free to ignore it. Yes I think we are talking past each other sometimes, and I get overwhelmed with information overload and can't deal with much at a time...
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    All who are disciples will follow the same path. But not all who follow Jesus (disciples) are called to be apostles. Can't help but feel how forsaken the early believers must have felt for those ten days with Jesus gone and without the Help and Comfort of the Holy Spirit in power. Reminds me...
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    (Your post is too long for me to parse every point and there is no room in the allowed number of characters to quote the whole post and reply to it.) But why did you mention and highlight this above....? .....I don't make a distinction between being baptized in the Holy Spirit and being...
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    So have you then?...been filled with the Holy Spirit in like manner as on the day of Pentecost?
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    Yes I meant that in the same way I understand the apostle meant it when he asked them.....asking them whether they had been filled with the Holy Spirit. But why should that make you so mad anyhow? You be blessed, I have to go out.
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    I don't know what being an Afrikaaner has to do with this....?...unless it's some sort of excuse for your tone of voice? "Passion for the cause" is just how you are justifying your unpleasant manner. I suspect a few people here would agree with my discernment brother. Not that I'm judging...
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    If you aren't reading me wrong then you are twisting what I'm saying. Which is not honest. No, my temperature is just fine, but I do wonder sometimes how yours is my friend. I don't have time to listen to videos these days mostly, unless I feel compelled or led to do so. Sometimes I'll watch...
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    We all receive the Holy Spirit when we come to faith......but then there is still the infilling of the Spirit offered to us. I'm not ruffled about this at all, just getting bored with the conversation maybe.....but if I may observe you often sound angry or resentful, in writing at least.
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    That the Lord God Almighty who fills the heavens would bend down and deign to speak to such as I, yes, it sometimes speaks to me of His love. Remember after His resurrection Jesus breathed on His disciples and said receive ye the Holy Spirit. But still they needed to be filled with the Spirit...
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    You don't seem to read my posts very carefully, unless my wording is at fault.....you often misunderstand.....never said you were attention-seeking. I'm talking about the devil and false prophets/ministers with all their grandstanding of things of God, which discredits the true. And I wasn't...
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    I'm guessing you have not received the Holy Spirit yet since ye believed because you are cessationist....? That gives the believer more spiritual power behind him and "enlarges" their spiritual gifts I think would be one way to put it. Like driving on 8 cylinders instead of 4. And it enables...
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    Deconstruction Part 2: Into Apostolicity

    I can't keep up brother. Old lady here, my health is very so-so but I'll spare you all the very boring details. God is working all things together for our good....think we all need a cross to carry and thorns in the flesh and to endure the olive press in whatever form it takes at any time. To...