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Daniel 9:27 is a false messiah verse. Which is why "the messiah" is not in that verse, as being the one who confirms the covenant for 7 years.. Where is the Antichrist in Daniel 9 ? He is the prince that shall come.

Yes, the rapture/resurrection event is those two verses. "whether wake or sleep"

That is Premill My post #176

Yes, at his coming - Premil jeff, in Zechariah 14:2-5 is Jesus returning to stand on the Mt of Olives, splitting it apart. And then afterward, events in Jerusalem, to come worship the King - Jesus. So there is going to be time left on this present earth after Jesus returns. Zechariah...

For certain there is coming an end to Satan's activity and the time of the end little horn/prince that shall come/Antichrist/revealed man of sin/beast-king person.

I think there should be a separate forum expressly for Amil participation only. This particular forum though is "Eschatology and Prophecy Forum". You started another similar thread "The absurdity of Pretrib logic" that is now locked. So the Pretrib rapture timing view seems to be a big...

Why ? You are attacking the Pre-trib view with this thread. Can no-one disagree with you ?

I think the Pre-trib view is possible - but not mandatory. The rapture may not happen until after the 70th week has begun. The limit is that the rapture will take place before the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation act of sitting in the temple claiming to have achieved...

In your opening post, you wrote.... "(and in Dougg’s case distorted charts)". So, where are Amil's so called "un-distorted" charts ? Your thread represents the Amil view. So why do you not want to discuss what you wrote in your first three posts of the thread - as those posts represent...

jeff, I suggest that you go by the kjv, which in the kjv it says in verse 8... not slay... but consume . The person will be cast alive into the lake of fire, him and also the false prophet, in Revelation 19:20.

So, according to Amil, in the 42 months of the beast-king's reign, when people are gong to be put to death for not worshiping the beast nor his his image, and the trumpet judgement and vials of God's wrath are taking place around the world - individuals will "spiritually" be saying peace and...

The Mt of Olives has not been split in half. So visible proof that Zechariah 14:2-5 is still future.

So in the Amil view, Jesus never stands on this current earth again like it says in Zechariah 14:2-5?

When does the 42 month reign of the beast-king end ? What ends it ?

You did not answer what I wrote. What biblically speaking will facilitate the world saying peace and safety - right before Jesus 's Second Coming to destroy the earth of your view ?

So you are not only no thousand year millennial reign of Jesus on this present earth, you are also no great tribulation which contains the 7 trumpet actions and the 7 vials of God's wrath action ? You are also none of the time of the end events in the book of Daniel ? You are also none of...

Then how do you account for the first resurrection in Revelation 20:3-4, and then there being a later resurrection of the rest of the dead until the thousand years are over, Revelation 20:5?

The sudden destruction that will take place when the day of the Lord begins - is physical. I never said it was not. The destruction that will take place during the great tribulation will be catastrophic. The notion that the world will have, believing that it has entered the messianic...

2 Peter 3:10 is talking about this present earth being completely destroyed. It will happen right before the Great White Throne Judgment in Revelation 20. Here is the verse... Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven...

Also you and @Spiritual Israelite need to make a time-line chart showing how the events in Revelation fit together with one another for the time frames of... Revelation 11:2 42 months Revelation 11:3 1260 days Revelation 11:9 3 1/2 days Revelation 12:6 1260 days Revelation 12:14 a...